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    NEVER listen to people who tell you that furries are all about yiff and porn. There are plenty of clean furries out there who do not draw that kind of stuff, or are into that kinda stuff. As well, being part of the furry fandom should not be something to be ashamed of.

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    I am new here but Matt pretty much said what I think. I'm one of those nut cases that has fantasized about anthropomorphic animals since I was a small child. I was strongly influence by the legends of many cultures in that regard. I still like reading ancient mythology of all the world's wonderful range of people. I hadn't actually thought about how that would also mean that different nationalities would also have different styles of furry fandom but it makes sense. Anyway, I started out with the idea that there couldn't possibly be a particular Furry Style that represents us all anymore than there is one culture that represents all of humanity. As for thinking the human species is somehow more noble than any of the real animals out there. It's an anthropocentric way of looking at the world and I don't agree with it. I completely against zoos and keeping captive animals of any kind. We haven't the moral right. The way humans treat each other for the most part is shameful too. What other species keeps it own kind in literal slavery? What other species thinks that it's alright to rape their mate and get away with it. Most nations have no laws on the books protecting women from rape by their husbands or genital mutilation when they are children. So enough with how noble humans are. We don't act as humane as many animals do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auriel Kitsu View Post
    I completely against zoos and keeping captive animals of any kind. We haven't the moral right.
    Morals are debatable, because morals are different for each person, but there are a lot of endangered animals bred in captivity to try to increase their numbers. And there are species that benefit from human intervention / interaction.

    What other species thinks that it's alright to rape their mate and get away with it. Most nations have no laws on the books protecting women from rape by their husbands or genital mutilation when they are children. So enough with how noble humans are. We don't act as humane as many animals do.
    Dolphins are known to rape.

    I was also watching a television program one time about some small burrowing mammals (forget the specifics) that sneak into the dens of their young and rape them in hope of being "the first male."

    We're hardly the only species that commits deplorable acts. We just tend to do things on a wider scale.
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    Ducks and geese rape. Dolphins kill their young and porpoises for fun. Stouts and moles rape infants. Hyenas ejaculate over their cubs. Lions kill cubs to bring females back into heat. Crows bully other birds.

    Hahaha in no way shape or form are animals some sacred, humane angels. They are just as sick and twisted as we are.

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    Dolphins have racism to. How does the immoral act of one forgive the immoral act of another? Your point about how humans help some species? There is not even a remote chance of parity between the few rare instances that we help other species compared to the hundreds of millions of animals that our species predates upon. A good example would be how here in America we help the Bison after all but exterminating them in an effort to starve the Native American population. Gee two atrocities for the price of one.

    If you are personally amoral or a moral relativist that's fine but please don't make statements that suggest that there are no logical absolutes scientifically possible on the subject of morality. I can only assume that you don't realize that there is an actual science of moral psychology?

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    As for the rest of your examples, they are expressions of a principle in logic called conflation. Please read. I promise they aren't going to use words to big for you.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflation

    The animals that you cite as examples are driven not by human rationalization which begets atrocity but by instincts which we as human being no longer have. The most humans can be scientifically be said to possess are motivations or drives. A drive is distinctly different than a genetically dictated instinct. The animals have an excuse for their behavior, human beings do not.

    I must admit that I'm somewhat stunned to hear this sort of rationalization coming out of people that are Furries. After all who would be more likely to actually have a reason to learn about the real differences between human beings and the rest of the animals that populate the planet. What in gods name were you all doing in high school? At least thats when I learned most of the basics about human and animal behaviors. I guess I can't hold you accountable in this day and age. I mean up to the year 2011 there was at least one idiot with a doctorate that at least in narrow terms still clung to the idea of human beings having instincts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auriel Kitsu View Post
    How does the immoral act of one forgive the immoral act of another?
    He does have a point there. I find it stupid that we humans will often excuse some of the sick things we do just because "Lol, animals do it too." Sometimes it's really not about "Oh, animals are so angelic and humans are so evil," sometimes it's just about trying to teach our own species not to do things we know are wrong, such as rape and murder. True, some animals do rape and murder, but that doesn't me WE are free to do it.

    I do disagree to an extent towards captive animals, though. I personally support LEGITIMATE zoos that actually wish to help breed endangered animals to help their numbers, but do not support zoos that only hold them captive for enjoyment.

    ...Hey, I got a question? When did this topic become about zoos and rape? Back on schedule please.

    Yeah, there are different levels of furries. Sometimes we have to figure out where we stand. I draw them a lot, like anthropomorphic characters over human ones, and have a few quirks, but I do not wear a fursuit, go to conventions, or enjoy any real sort of porn. I have a hard time watching anthropomorphic cartoons, but love video games with anthropomorphic protagonists. Not sure where I stand as a furry.

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    Lmao I didn't say it was alright to rape and murder, bully and assault simply because other species does it. It was just a comment to what other species thinks its okay to rape. And dolphins and crows are pretty darn intelligent, you can't say everything they do is because of instincts. They kill for shit and giggles.

    Also this forum isn't just for furries fyi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auriel Kitsu View Post
    As for the rest of your examples, they are expressions of a principle in logic called conflation. Please read. I promise they aren't going to use words to big for you.
    Auriel: this is a warning to cut it out, this attitude is not welcome on our forums. I'd also really hesitate to start taunting the intelligence of other users when your own posts could stand plentiful checking of their grammar. If you want to debate someone, debate their points; your arguments become incredibly weak when you go after a person directly, and go against our rules.

    I'm not diving into this current off-topic discussion because 1: it's fruitless to talk to hardcore non-homo sapiens animal sympathizers and 2: it's off-topic.

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    Rory you sound as ignorant in your assumptions as the people that disrespected me and dismissed what I said with poor logic. Everyone has a right to their opinion but nobody has a right to be wrong in their facts. If you don't believe that then I'm in the wrong community.

 

 

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