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    Lucid dreaming: a crash course in 5 lessons.

    1) understand the mechanics behind lucid dreaming.

    Lucid dreaming involves some strange logic. here's how it goes: to be lucid you need to be aware of your dreams. to be aware of your dreams, you must remember your dreams.

    This means that to be able to achieve lucidity in the dream you're having, you have to be able to remember you were lucid in that dream AFTER you wake up.

    Still following me? It gets easier.

    See, to be lucid, you need to be aware you're dreaming. if you can remember your dreams well, then you are aware you are dreaming, albeit you are not self-aware of your surroundings and the inherent chaos of your dreams, and you don't pick up on anomalies (more on that later) so it's less playing a video game and more watching a movie.

    The abstract steps are: rise and shine (wake up) -> be in the past (remember dream Y) -> be the writer (write details from dream Y into dream diary) -> be the spectator (see dream Y unfold like a movie) -> be the actor (achieve lucidity, move around within the pre-built environment) -> be the director (control and alter the pre-built environment).

    The actual process is much simpler.

    2) Keep a dream diary.

    That's the most important part of lucid dreaming, because without a dream diary, you'll have a hard time becoming lucid in your dreams.

    Everyone dreams, even if plenty people don't remember their dreams. the human body and mind needs dreams just as much as it needs sleep to heal for the next day. If you have a hard time remembering your dreams, a dream diary will come in handy. It might seem like a waste of time, but bear with me.

    Let's say you can't remember any of your dreams. let's say you can't even remember your nightmares. The fact is, you'll wake up with at least an image, a feeling, an object or even just a name, a sound or a word in your mind.

    write it down.

    It might seem like nothing to you, but it will mean a lot to your subconscious, and even if your first entries look something like this:

    July 12, 2007
    Time unknown

    I see a sphere embedded into a cube's corner.
    Your subconscious will take that as an indication shit's got real, and after a while (it's no fast process, so let's say after a month in which you've skipped 4 or 5 nights in total in your diary), your entries will start looking like this:

    September 1st, 2007
    Woke up at 6:23am

    I am running down a street, it's the night and it's very foggy. there's people dressed in victorian-era clothes who are staring at me, curious as to what I am doing. I then see a car and I get inside. I try to drive it, but the accelerator gets stuck and I drive straight into a wall, which somehow throws me into outerspace. -END-
    But that's not all: the more you write down, the more you'll be able to memorize, so that about three months later, your dream diaries will look something like this:

    December 13th, 2007
    Woke up at 2:56am
    2nd entry

    I am all the way back at the farm where I used to live in. I sense a feel of sadness despite the fact everyone is here just like 7 years ago. the lighting is very somber. it's the night, vision is decent despite the fact there are no lights on. somehow, I could see better inside the farm house than outside. when I walk out, the sky's cleared up. a bright yellow moon in a crescent shape is litting the sky, yet strangely not the ground. I see Andre's old camry, yet he himself is nowhere to be seen. I see Rene pass by and say hi to him. he smiles and returns the greeting while waving at me. I walk toward the farm's main building. as I enter it, I realize there are no animals at all anymore. the entryway, where the goats were, is devoid of any life. the holding pens and even the room where all the rabbits were are desperately empty. dusty, too. somehow, as I walk into the rabbits room, the lighting is somehow bright, yet foggy. I can't see what's outside through the windows. I walk back to the entryway, and then go directly to the room where the food for all the animals was. all I see is some leaves, a couple empty sacks, and rene, who is fixing the doors leading to the wheat fields. I can perfectly see them but they seem to be endless, and the small hill which used to be a tool shed dug out of ground which collapsed years earlier is nowhere to be seen. -END-
    You might think that's enough to move on to lesson 3, but there's a little detail to keep in mind: when you wake up, you'll forget most of your dream in as little as 5 minutes unless you're actively writing about it. it's even quicker if you're being distracted. Mind you though, alarm clocks in general are exceptions as waking up mid-dream from a screeching alarm actually works in your favor because you were snapped awake mid-REM sleep and as such your mind vividly remembers what you were dreaming about up to this point. same rules apply though: wrte it down or risk forgetting most of it. And there's no being selective: you write down everything you remember, even if it's a nightmare or a dream where you banged your mother or your friend or even yourself (and I swear to god these are not exemples of dreams I've had. at least, not with my mom or myself)

    As a final note to this lesson, there are things you will do or see or even think about during the day that might trigger memories from dreams you had the night prior, and in some cases even dreams you've had a few nights ago. If this happens, write down whatever you remember because if you forget it again, chances are you won't get a third chance.

    3) Find and write down anomalies from your dreams.

    Since the third dream diary exemple is from an actual dream I've had, let's add to it:

    December 13th, 2007
    Woke up at 2:56am
    2nd entry

    Anomalies: inconsistent lighting, missing lighting (moon doesn't shine on ground and objects standing on it, house/building/persons/etc), car is parked where the actual tool shed would be, and the tool shed is further on the left and quite longer and taller than it really is. tool shed shape inconsistant as I walked toward the main building. no pool. moon is too yellow, too big and the crescent is too thin (almost c-shaped). rene has black hair despite the fact even 7 years ago he already had grey hair (and on his old police I.D., his hair was brown). collapsed shed nowhere to be seen. wheat fields too tall. no garden to be seen anywhere. no exterior fireplace to the far right, opposite to the tool shed. rabbits room has steps from the inside. actual room had none.

    I am all the way back at the farm where I used to live in. I sense a feel of sadness despite the fact everyone is here just like 7 years ago. the lighting is very somber. it's the night, vision is decent despite the fact there are no lights on. somehow, I could see better inside the farm house than outside. when I walk out, the sky's cleared up. a bright yellow moon in a crescent shape is litting the sky, yet strangely not the ground. I see Andre's old camry, yet he himself is nowhere to be seen. I see Rene pass by and say hi to him. he smiles and returns the greeting while waving at me. I walk toward the farm's main building. as I enter it, I realize there are no animals at all anymore. the entryway, where the goats were, is devoid of any life. the holding pens and even the room where all the rabbits were are desperately empty. dusty, too. somehow, as I walk into the rabbits room, the lighting is somehow bright, yet foggy. I can't see what's outside through the windows. I walk back to the entryway, and then go directly to the room where the food for all the animals was. all I see is some leaves, a couple empty sacks, and rene, who is fixing the doors leading to the wheat fields. I can perfectly see them but they seem to be endless, and the small hill which used to be a tool shed dug out of ground which collapsed years earlier is nowhere to be seen. -END-
    Basically, you have to be a nitpicker and detail everything you've seen that's wrong from either a memory, biology or just plain common sense perspective, etc. For exemple, in a dream you might end up talking to an old woman who is working as a secretary, and her index finger from her left hand is disproportionately big and long. a few seconds later you're talking to a young man with one eye in his right eye socket and the left socket replaced with a grinning smile. he then smiles at you with his normal smile. congrats, you're about to get shitfucked by a nightmare!

    All jokes aside, detailing any anomalies you come across will give your dreaming self AND your subconscious all the ammo it needs to...

    4) Achieve lucidity.

    You and your subconscious are a tight-knit team. you have built an extensive mental database of things that shouldn't happen in real life, you can now remember your dreams vividly enough to write them down in great detail, often taking 15 minutes and more to write down everything you remembered from the dream you just woke up from. The next night, you fall asleep, and you see a cat with a head three times smaller than that of a real cat. his owner is jon arbuckle in all his cartoony glory even though everyone else (including you) look like our irl selves. You have a doubt.

    This is the single most important step in a lucid dream: doubt. It's a binary choice whose outcome is influenced by how much training you've got and how many anomalies you've learned to notice, and your subconscious is doing all the dirty work to make these anomalies blend together like a dictionary that would create new words independantly from the words it contained.

    In this very moment, everything boils down to this: either you go lucid or you don't.

    You have this nagging thought that perhaps something's weird about that cat. and hey, what the fuck is jon doing here walking around with the cat like it's the single most ordinary sighting in the world? you look closer, you look around...

    You see a tv. you get hold of it, stare into your own reflection, and lift the 30-inch crt tv like it's featherweight cardboard. you stare at the tv as it bounces around, unharmed, and you utter the magic words:

    "I am dreaming."

    This single sentence and its different versions ("I am in a dream", etc) will act as a trigger. you are now aware you are dreaming. you know that you really are sleeping.

    You have near-complete control of what you can do. want to see a deceased relative? your little brother is summoned for one last hug. you feel like being a badass and get guns to go rambo on bad guys on the nightmare you've just derailed? boom, fucka.

    The limit is your imagination and your ability to focus and remember yourself you're in a dream. during those magical moments, you are your own god.

    But suddenly, you feel your awareness slipping away. you try to summon something and it fails. you get distracted by an arcade machine. This is the problem with that kinda stuff since it's pretty hard to...

    5) Stay lucid.

    Remember when I talked about focus? well, it turns out either your brain hates having you in control of your own dreams, or your subconscious is being a troll, because if you don't pay attention, you'll stop being lucid, and most of the time there's no way to become lucid again before you wake up. It's something that might be easier for some than for others. Still, here's an easy trick from yours trully: every minute or two (in-dream), look at your hands and say out loud "I am dreaming!". your hands will usually have more fingers than they should. for exemple, I once had 9 fingers and three thumbs on the left hand and 8 fingers and no thumb on the right hand. in true dream chaos fashion, it somehow will not impede your ability to hold and use stuff with your hands.

    And if you think that after you've started having lucid dreams, you can say good bye to your dream diary, then I've got some news for you: if you stop writing dream diary entries, you'll start having a harder time remembering your dreams, and not only will it become much harder to get lucid, but you'll also have fewer lucid dreams until you stop having any whatsoever if you keep skipping the dream diary stuff like that. thankfully, it's easy to get back in mental shape, and it's faster than the first time when you were learning how to remember specific emotions and scents, too. start writing dream diaries again, and all your skills will come back. It's like getting on a bicycle after a decade of not having had a ride on any. you'll stumble a bit and your endurance will be burnt like dry grass during a heat wave, but you'll soon get back to making wheelies and being badass while going up a steep cliff without so much as panting.

    To finish this, here are the non-abstract, simple steps: sleep -> dream -> wake up -> remember dream -> write down dream -> sleep -> dream -> wake up -> remember dream -> write down dream -> rince and repeat.

    (note: if I forgot something or if you see something missing from any lesson, tell me. I'm mighty tired right now and I'm struggling to keep my eyes open as I write this so bear with me.)
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    When I turned eight, I suddenly (as in overnight) became heavily insomniac and a natural lucid dreamer, to the point where I actually got bored of dreaming because I ran outta imagination and decided to shut that thing down. Sometimes, though, I'll feel like dreaming so I will, but most of the times I'll go in another mode I don't really know much about.

    It's like I'm awake, except asleep. As in my eyes are closed and I'm laying down, but I can see and look around, and it's still in real time. For years, I was content with just looking through the window all night, because anyway, time would literally fly by. The whole night would pass in minutes, which I thought was convenient since it was less boring this way.

    But then about two weeks ago, a friend of mine suggested I try to move and look into a mirror or something, so that night I decided to give it a try. The first night, I made it to the bathroom before morning and looked in the mirror, but I saw nothing. Just the bathtub behind me, as if I was invisible. So I looked at my hands but still nothing, so the mirror wasn't "broken" or anything. Disappointed, I went back to bed and waited till morning. But I've kept on practicing and now I can actually take walks for an hour or two, scare the neighbors' dogs when I walk nearby and stuff. I don't get tired from walking/running, too! Pretty neat mode, though I have no idea what it is exactly :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibuuyk View Post
    When I turned eight, I suddenly (as in overnight) became heavily insomniac and a natural lucid dreamer, to the point where I actually got bored of dreaming because I ran outta imagination and decided to shut that thing down. Sometimes, though, I'll feel like dreaming so I will, but most of the times I'll go in another mode I don't really know much about.

    It's like I'm awake, except asleep. As in my eyes are closed and I'm laying down, but I can see and look around, and it's still in real time. For years, I was content with just looking through the window all night, because anyway, time would literally fly by. The whole night would pass in minutes, which I thought was convenient since it was less boring this way.

    But then about two weeks ago, a friend of mine suggested I try to move and look into a mirror or something, so that night I decided to give it a try. The first night, I made it to the bathroom before morning and looked in the mirror, but I saw nothing. Just the bathtub behind me, as if I was invisible. So I looked at my hands but still nothing, so the mirror wasn't "broken" or anything. Disappointed, I went back to bed and waited till morning. But I've kept on practicing and now I can actually take walks for an hour or two, scare the neighbors' dogs when I walk nearby and stuff. I don't get tired from walking/running, too! Pretty neat mode, though I have no idea what it is exactly :3
    Lucky bastard. <3 ever heard of out of body experiences? I used to have these when I was very young. your mind and body are separate. when I had these, I would fly over the city and be in awe at all the lights (it was nighttime). and then after a while I'd get pulled back into my own body. I once turned around as I was pulled down, and I could see myself on the bed, my eyes shut, looking like I was asleep.

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    Lucid dreaming is hell of a fun experience. I kept a journal for a while before lynching it. Managed to get a couple of lucids while doing so. Nowadays I just want to sleep so I ain't paying too much attention to dreams anymore, though I do pay interest to dreams that wake me up in the middle of the night

    I had a great OBE once in a dream. I was tutoring a group of lucidity interns and taught them the works, we walked around places and showed examples. Eventually I entered a room with a levitating body mostly covered in sheets. I told my group he was having an OBE. As I was leaving I decided to take a walk back to the OBEr and noticed it was me.
    That's about it in a nutshell

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    Quote Originally Posted by SammyFox View Post
    Lucky bastard. <3 ever heard of out of body experiences? I used to have these when I was very young. your mind and body are separate. when I had these, I would fly over the city and be in awe at all the lights (it was nighttime). and then after a while I'd get pulled back into my own body. I once turned around as I was pulled down, and I could see myself on the bed, my eyes shut, looking like I was asleep.
    I thought dem out of body thingies were when people were still "aware" during surgery or something? Also, I don't think I can fly, or at least I've never tried o.o. Maybe I just behave too much like I do awake, maybe I can move freely and not rely on walking/running/whatever? I should try once I get better at slowing down the time and stuff.

    And when I want to "go back", all I have to do is blink my eyes (figuratively, since I don't really have a body).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirCoffeecup View Post
    I had a great OBE once in a dream. I was tutoring a group of lucidity interns and taught them the works, we walked around places and showed examples. Eventually I entered a room with a levitating body mostly covered in sheets. I told my group he was having an OBE. As I was leaving I decided to take a walk back to the OBEr and noticed it was me.
    That's about it in a nutshell
    I don't really think that's how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibuuyk View Post
    I thought dem out of body thingies were when people were still "aware" during surgery or something? Also, I don't think I can fly, or at least I've never tried o.o. Maybe I just behave too much like I do awake, maybe I can move freely and not rely on walking/running/whatever? I should try once I get better at slowing down the time and stuff.

    And when I want to "go back", all I have to do is blink my eyes (figuratively, since I don't really have a body).

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    I don't really think that's how it works.
    Those are near-death experiences. similar, but not quite the same. Also, you don't have to worry about trying out stuff. you could even go anywhere on the planet or even far in the galaxy, or pretty much anywhere you want to be, and you wouldn't suffer any consequences. The way OOBEs end is either by being pulled back into your body, or by being snapped back to it instantly (when you blink).

    As for what SirCoffeecup said, I think he meant that he dreamed he was having an OOBE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SammyFox View Post
    Those are near-death experiences. similar, but not quite the same. Also, you don't have to worry about trying out stuff. you could even go anywhere on the planet or even far in the galaxy, or pretty much anywhere you want to be, and you wouldn't suffer any consequences. The way OOBEs end is either by being pulled back into your body, or by being snapped back to it instantly (when you blink).

    As for what SirCoffeecup said, I think he meant that he dreamed he was having an OOBE.
    Really? That makes it sound even better. But to go anywhere in the world, I'd need to not only make time run normally, but even slow it down @_@

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    If I go to sleep while making a story in my head, I can control my dreams and remember them the next day. But I have to really consentrate. And I almost always in third person view or shifting back and forth :I My brain really doesn't want me in first person.
    And my dreams are often very real. I can feel it when someone touches me, wind, stepping in grass etc.

    Idk if this has anything to do with the topic.

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    Not to be a downer or anything (but that's precisely what I'm going to do here), but as someone who used to be very interested in this pursuit... I'm sorry, but it's utterly pointless. It's mental masturbation, seriously. Okay, it's really great to explore the contents of your own mind. It's really fascinating to see, literally, what you dreams are made of, just to see how surreal it all is. It's like, the grooviest trip on the best shrooms ever created by man, man...

    Okay, and?...

    The thing that's hard to get over, and I don't think this is any fault of any dreamer, lucid or otherwise, is just accepting that you're in an altered state of consciousness. You're not going to think the same way you would when you're awake. You're not going to want the same things. So that awesome scenario you worked out in your head before bed probably isn't going to materialize at all, or if it does, it's just not going to be like what you thought. And you really don't have as much control over that as these whackos (or con artists, frankly, if they're trying to sell you the "secret" to it...) would have you believe.

    I'm not saying it's a waste of time. After the Tuscon, Ariz. shootings, upon learning that the perp was not only an aspiring lucid dreamer, but a schizophrenic, (and around this same time, I had a psychiatrist convinced I was one too - it seems to be the go-to diagnosis these days when you don't know how to label somebody, but that's for another thread) I became really disillusioned with it for a while... Until it started happening again, infrequently, briefly, beyond my control, as it always has been and as it ought to be.

    I'm just saying, more often than not, what people find during lucid dreams is they're so content with whatever it is they're experiencing that they kind of just "go with the flow" and drift back into subconsciousness, though they remember everything vividly when they wake up... I'm sorry, but why in the hell did I ever think that meant I'd done something wrong, and why would anyone else?!

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    My method of vividly remembering my entire dream:
    1. Notice it's time to get some sleep
    2. Drink a huge cup of coffee or soda-pop.
    3. Sleep, and profit.

    Though my dreams usually end up being crazy nightmares that I can't even explain.

 

 

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