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    Popularity in the fandom

    Does it really even matter in the grand scheme of things? I hear the term 'popufur' and it makes me shudder. I've been in this collective known as furry for about 3 years or so and have to say some people put way to much stock in popularity. But it's a microcosm of society in general. Look at the social plague known as Jersey Shore. People that we would consider douche bags and general scum are better known than people that are trying to better our species as a whole through science, medicine, and the like.

    I don't hate popufurs. Don't get the message mixed up. A lot of them didn't ask for an army of people to rise up around them. They were just doing what they love and fans flocked to it. I'm talking about the people that let it go to their head, becoming enveloped in a 'bubble' of sorts. We've all heard stories about this and do not need to drop names. Their world revolves around the fandom. It's basically who they are now.

    I guess what I'm trying to ask in this rambling post is do you think popularity in this small niche is important? Why do people take it so seriously? Do you think more people should go outside instead of refreshing whatever furry sites they go to every five minutes?

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    Most people that are popular/well known that I've met don't let it go to their heads. Sometimes they just hate it because everyone wants to kiss up to them to be known as "friend of popufur".
    Then there's those that want to become "popufur" so bad that they do in a way they don't like and then proceed to lash out, thus making their reputation worse.

    I don't think popularity is important. Having friends is nice but to me, popularity is an unhealthy codependency. The popular person would more than likely use the people that follow them for their own gain as well as those that follow the popular person may only do so to become like them and be with the "in" crowd.

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    I hope I get to be a popufur one day. Not because I want sycophants groveling at my feet by any means - I hate fake people, but at least in the case of the artists, they can command high prices for their services. :p

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    I'm skeptical over those that're popular. Given what I've seen, most have ended up there thanks to plenty of money.

    It's not that the person is necessarily a bad person due to becoming popular thanks to having the commissioning power, but we all know the tale of how money corrupts (and how that is often proven true).

    Personally, I fear power and popularity due to how egotistical I know I can get. I'd rather not wander down that path of madness, particularly since I know I'll question why it was even worth it later on.

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    If it helps, I don't watch Jersey Shore, but I do watch The Big Brain Theory (Not the Big Bang Theory!), a reality show based on engineers/science :3.

    To answer your question, I believe popularity does matter to a certain extent, but when it gets to your head, I feel it becomes worthless. When all your actions are only based on "Will this make me popular?", that's when I believe you are taking a turn for the worst. It's understandable to enjoy being popular if you are just doing what you do, being yourself, but becoming someone else just for attention, I don't find that too appealing.

    I don't know enough about the furry niche to give an opinion on whether being "popufur" matters or not, but figured I'd give an opinion on how I view popularity in general.
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    Popularity is made a big deal of because for a lot of people the fandom is a potential source of cash

    Like, it's really nice to get attention even if you're just into art as a hobby, but that shit's important if you're an artist, musician or writer who would like to potentially make money doing what you love

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybby View Post
    Popularity is made a big deal of because for a lot of people the fandom is a potential source of cash

    Like, it's really nice to get attention even if you're just into art as a hobby, but that shit's important if you're an artist, musician or writer who would like to potentially make money doing what you love
    Of course, to achieve that, you need either money or a crapload of luck in the first place (y'know, for contacts that can get you places). Though, skill is important, or, at the very least, the illusion that you're a good artist.

    Perception is everything, in the end.

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    Honestly it does matter to some extent. it doesn't make your opinions more valid, unless you opinion is something to do with how many people will support you, but it matters in terms of getting your work out, getting your message out.
    I know a lot of artists that work on getting their work out and being seen, and many do this without too much compromise, because like it's been said, that leads to money.
    I don't consider myself a popufur but I've got a decent following in the fandom and it helps when i'm trying to do something.

    I think in many cases people think it "goes to their heads" because they are bitter or don't understand social ettiquette. There are a lot of people that want to be "friends" with the popular person. they're wanting free art or to ride coat tails. There's people that don't process that there are friends someone has had for ages and treats them a different way, and then people they are getting to know, so they try to shove themselves in that "long time friend" category. They get told no and think the person is a bitch rather than realizing there's 20 fuckers doing the same attention whore behavior at them.

    Of course there are people that want to be popular just for popularity sake, and they tend to get it through thousands of commissions and such. There are those that take it too far.

    I also find the people that really care about popufurs, aren't. The small time artists, writers, users that don't have the skill or patience to build up. So they turn to porn and sauciness and still fail. They're the get rich quick kid that thinks "if I just make a sexy fursona, everyone will love me. If I just draw it in porn, everyone will love me" and they don't because that's not a personality, it's a drop in the ocean. Popularity takes time, even if you're buying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fay V View Post
    I think in many cases people think it "goes to their heads" because they are bitter or don't understand social ettiquette. There are a lot of people that want to be "friends" with the popular person. they're wanting free art or to ride coat tails. There's people that don't process that there are friends someone has had for ages and treats them a different way, and then people they are getting to know, so they try to shove themselves in that "long time friend" category. They get told no and think the person is a bitch rather than realizing there's 20 fuckers doing the same attention whore behavior at them.
    This certainly doesn't even have to be placed with art as a qualifier. While yes, certain people can let some form of "popularity" get to their heads, as Fay just mentioned here, some others may try to shoehorn themselves into other people's lives for no other reason than the fact that they both happen to like certain things. If for instance I get on a train wearing my favorite team's jersey, and another guy walks onto the train wearing the same team's jersey, that's not an open invitation for us to become best friends. Sure there may be some small talk involving the thing we both like, but that doesn't mean that I should give that guy my number or invite him over to watch the game some time. While enjoying similar things may be a catalyst for friendship or some level of relationship with someone else, it isn't the only thing required in social interaction to become something deeper than "acquaintance."

    Now the "popularity" aspect throws another wrench into the cog because now you're dealing with someone who's somewhat known to the public. That same guy on the train may know me as the guy holding a camera on the sidelines of that game, but that doesn't mean that I want to have a lengthy discussion with them on the recent rookie free agents the team has picked up or if I could help him score some tickets/get a player's autograph. Certainly, trying to engage in a relationship with someone for the prospect of maybe getting some free gift art/requests done is a bit more shallow than the "popufur" who doesn't want someone they barely know constantly dropping them private messages, e-mails, tweets, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Term View Post
    This certainly doesn't even have to be placed with art as a qualifier. While yes, certain people can let some form of "popularity" get to their heads, as Fay just mentioned here, some others may try to shoehorn themselves into other people's lives for no other reason than the fact that they both happen to like certain things. If for instance I get on a train wearing my favorite team's jersey, and another guy walks onto the train wearing the same team's jersey, that's not an open invitation for us to become best friends. Sure there may be some small talk involving the thing we both like, but that doesn't mean that I should give that guy my number or invite him over to watch the game some time. While enjoying similar things may be a catalyst for friendship or some level of relationship with someone else, it isn't the only thing required in social interaction to become something deeper than "acquaintance."

    Now the "popularity" aspect throws another wrench into the cog because now you're dealing with someone who's somewhat known to the public. That same guy on the train may know me as the guy holding a camera on the sidelines of that game, but that doesn't mean that I want to have a lengthy discussion with them on the recent rookie free agents the team has picked up or if I could help him score some tickets/get a player's autograph. Certainly, trying to engage in a relationship with someone for the prospect of maybe getting some free gift art/requests done is a bit more shallow than the "popufur" who doesn't want someone they barely know constantly dropping them private messages, e-mails, tweets, etc.
    I know a builder where there are people often commenting about how they know her and are good friends with her. One spoke with her fiance (not knowing it was her fiance) and talked all about how they were best friends. The fiance had never heard of them at all. It's one of those where people really want to be buddies and push themselves in and ride coat tails, but in the end when there's 30 people doing that of course none of them get the time of day.

 

 

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