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    Question about mature/adult art and this forum

    I'm aware that posting images that can be considered NSFW is not allowed on this board. To me that's perfectly fine, it's the same in very many forums on the web. But weasyl is an art community, and one thing that the forums are useful for is doing stuff such as asking for critique on one's work, or even sharing such stuff via trades, commissions, and freebies.

    Last night I opened a freebie thread for art containing semi-nude suggestive work, a thread that's still expecting two more pictures by me. In the title of that thread, I did place a warning, and since it's been open, a moderator has not intervened. Is it safe to assume that placing warnings on the title of threads is the way to go concerning this? I'm personally more geared towards posting art with artistic, mature nudity and not fetishy cum-throwing adult art, if that's worth mentioning.

    I even feel like posting for critique and tutorials on women's boobs and butts sooner or later. This is an art community, and giving and recieving helpful information regarding nude art should be part of it, if handled with maturity. But of course, I respect the fact that people do not want to see certain things at an inappropriate time, as well as some parents out there would like to preserve the innocence of their children's minds.

    How would I go about doing this without breaking any rules?

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    What I would think would be preferable in cases of artwork that could be considered 'adult' in some circles would be to upload it to the mainsite and link to it here, simply because the mainsite checks for age on images and we don't have a way to do that on the forums. In the case of critique, the mainsite will have some sort of critique functionality I believe, though I'm not sure what all it will entail.

    The problem is, as is probably apparent, the mainsite isn't available yet. While the basic reason why I think such content shouldn't be embedded here still stands, I'd rather we presented a reasonable alternative in its stead.

    For now I'll leave the current thread as-is (I'm on my phone in a car anyway, can't really mod from here lol), but I'll bring it up with the rest of the staff and see what we can come up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judicant View Post
    What I would think would be preferable in cases of artwork that could be considered 'adult' in some circles would be to upload it to the mainsite and link to it here, simply because the mainsite checks for age on images and we don't have a way to do that on the forums. In the case of critique, the mainsite will have some sort of critique functionality I believe, though I'm not sure what all it will entail.

    The problem is, as is probably apparent, the mainsite isn't available yet. While the basic reason why I think such content shouldn't be embedded here still stands, I'd rather we presented a reasonable alternative in its stead.

    For now I'll leave the current thread as-is (I'm on my phone in a car anyway, can't really mod from here lol), but I'll bring it up with the rest of the staff and see what we can come up with.
    Alright man, thanks for the response! Yes, I didn't expect you guys to allow adult material on the forum, but what about "mature"? Artistic nudity and things. And, would you like me to remove pictures in my thread and replace them with just links?

    Other than that, I look forward to more info. :>

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    If you're ok doing so, links will probably be better until we can decide how to approach this for the time being. It is a delicate line deciding what is an isn't acceptable for younger audiences, so it's best to err on the side of caution I think.

    I do understand where you're coming from though, and one of the things I want for this site is to have a well-formed artist community which trading and critiquing would definitely play a major part of, it's just very hard to make calls on what constitutes 'artistic nudity' and what doesn't. My personal view is that the content you're describing is pretty benign, but I've seen enough out there that my view is probably different than someone else's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibby View Post
    Alright man, thanks for the response! Yes, I didn't expect you guys to allow adult material on the forum, but what about "mature"? Artistic nudity and things. And, would you like me to remove pictures in my thread and replace them with just links?

    Other than that, I look forward to more info. :>
    If it's in a link it's fine, unless it becomes crazy and obvious porn-mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibby View Post
    Alright man, thanks for the response! Yes, I didn't expect you guys to allow adult material on the forum, but what about "mature"? Artistic nudity and things. And, would you like me to remove pictures in my thread and replace them with just links?

    Other than that, I look forward to more info. :>
    I've seen your thread and I don't see any reason to take the images down and link them. The thread title already states it's NSFW and mentions 'tasteful', which to me immediatly makes me think "tasteful nudity". You could edit the thread title to explicitly say tasteful nudes if you wish.



    As for links in general, I have a suggestion. Maybe we could set up redirects on links to a page that states the following link may or may not be NSFW and to be cautious. Make it set as an option as well for those who don't really care what they click (myself). I'm not sure if it would help that much, but it would just be a bit of extra padding I suppose.

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    The images you have up now are alright, it's more frontal nudity that should be linked.

    Right now we have no way of verifying age access to certain pages. So if people start directly posting NSFW images to the site we are liable for allowing minors access to nudity. We ask that artists link to items because it is then up to the source to limit access, not us. If another site is hosting the image it isn't our fault that minors see it.

    We can look into ways to allow images posted onto the site while still protecting ourselves, but for now please keep any images that show breasts or genitals to links. thanks

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    Okay, thanks very much! :>

    I've got one more post to make in that thread later on, but I may be linking that one rather than embedding it this time, depending on the content. And if I ever do open that tutorial/critique/discussion thread, I'll be sure to keep both links and warnings at the ready. :>

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    This is vBulletin right?

    With vBulletin you can make groups that have access to certain forums. So if you make a NSFW group that you have to apply to get into, their should not be this problem.

    It's an easy fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acefredfred View Post
    This is vBulletin right?

    With vBulletin you can make groups that have access to certain forums. So if you make a NSFW group that you have to apply to get into, their should not be this problem.

    It's an easy fix.
    This is a fantastic idea, if you ask me. If one can prove their age, they can get in.

    And of course, they would have to prove their age. They'd be applying, of course. Whatever date they set their birthday to when they register on the forum should not count as proof.

 

 

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