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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    I'm not mistaking backseat moderation by a single user for anything else than exactly what it is.

    If this is the kind of thing I see a number of people complaining about all because of one person, I'm going to have to take into account how much this person who doesn't want to be bothered by furry artworks is bothering other users and admin staff about those furry artworks.
    And one person making a big deal is enough to turn you off a whole site?

    Besides that, said user is using a feature of the site as it is, at the moment, meant to be used. The details of that intended use can and likely will change, possibly drastically, possibly not. he wasn't making a big deal about it, he was using the feature the way it's meant to be used and contacting users to make sure they understand the tagging system here, which the mods and admins fully encourage.

    If you don't want to stay I'm not going to make a huge argument for you to, but the more people working to better the site the better the site will get, the stronger the community. Complaining and getting personal about things doesn't help.

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    A thread I made similar to this: http://forums.weasyl.com/vbulletin/s...uot-Categories

    I agree that basic tags need to be added when it comes to the model/character of the piece. Such as in furry works or anthropomorphic works, the species and whether it's a kemonmimi or not should be taken into account. As I said in my thread I've blocked a wide range of animals (not many but more than the basic fandom favorites) and I still see a lot of furry artwork, needless to say I am not against it but I'd like to see more than just that as I still frequent FA and would like to see the other things people are uploading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ali View Post
    i don't know what your definition is of kemonomimi, but: Kemonomimi (獣耳 or けものみみ, lit. beast ears) describes humanoid characters that possess animal-like features
    I was basically going by Wikipedia's article entry on them, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_ant...rphism#Animals

    Yours seemed more furry than "kemo-y", is all I thought.

    therefore, leave it as kemonomimi, not furry. it's tagged appropriately, that's why i tagged it as such. my characters in that picture are not heavily animalized... they are humans with cat ears and cat tails, the basic definition, the universal definition of kemonomimi. i will add the anthro tag knowing that's the universal tag, but unless my character is covered in fur, i'm not tagging it as furry.
    Alright, I can live with that, and I understand your side too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    We understand the issue of rights. However, if we aren't doing everything we can to ensure that our tag filtering system actually works, than a crucial function of the site is crippled. Now, there are ways that we can fix this. One is having a smart-tagging system so that tags of a similar nature are all linked together, i.e. if someone filters "furry" at the adult level, it could also suggest similar tags like anthro and kemonomimi if it's a problem for them. Another thing we need to do is make it clearer that this site isn't meant to be centric to one community, and is meant to be open to artists of all kinds.

    Another idea would be to have our Ferret system more centered on maintaining our tag infrastructure, so that people we have designated as trustworthy can edit tags, even if you decide to set an option that says normal users cannot edit tags. I will need to run these ideas by everyone and see what they think, but I will do my best.
    All of these are great ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by Spelunker Sal View Post
    I respectfully disagree with your "furry" tag thing you brought up, so I'm choosing not to implement that and using Weasyl's "anthro" tag they want instead (which I've been doing). So hopefully, as Ben said, they'll be working on this issue in general to make the whole general-art-site thing better.
    Alright, that's cool. I have anthro on my filter now for adult pics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    I'm not mistaking backseat moderation by a single user for anything else than exactly what it is.

    If this is the kind of thing I see a number of people complaining about all because of one person, I'm going to have to take into account how much this person who doesn't want to be bothered by furry artworks is bothering other users and admin staff about those furry artworks.
    I didn't know asking 2 artists politely to add some tags that would help them and others was backseat moderation.

    Regardless, yes, the tag system needs work. Yes, there needs to be measures to prevent tag abuse. The site is still in beta, so nothing will be perfect or even close for awhile.

    but at least it isn't the bug filled and security compromised mess FA is, or the anarchal mess dA us, or the dead wastes SA is

    And my responses have made me figure out how much I loathe how quoting posts work on forums. Too much time on the chans I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by RX-149Dragonite View Post
    I didn't know asking 2 artists politely to add some tags that would help them and others was backseat moderation.


    Quote Originally Posted by RX-149Dragonite View Post
    I know it isn't. Look at the post date that you quoted. It's way before I messaged you last night. I was
    You're also on the first page of this forum section inquiring about tag-blocks and you even have a journal written up on the subject. Apparently tags are a very, very serious issue with you, and are paramount to your viewing experience.

    So just how many people have you been PM'ing, pestering, and possibly harassing over this issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    You're also on the first page of this forum section inquiring about tag-blocks and you even have a journal written up on the subject. Apparently tags are a very, very serious issue with you, and are paramount to your viewing experience.

    So just how many people have you been PM'ing, pestering, and possibly harassing over this issue?
    Come on now, there's no need to make this a personal issue. If you want to hash it out with him, just talk to him privately. We want this thread to be civil, and not to be about personal attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    Apparently tags are a very, very serious issue with you, and are paramount to your viewing experience.
    Considering tags are the very reason you can search and find art on most websites, yeah they're pretty paramount to anybody's viewing experience.

    So just how many people have you been PM'ing, pestering, and possibly harassing over this issue?
    I'm not going to lie, I have PMed a few people about it. However, most of the people replied kindly and courteously, understanding why the tags were important.

    And I'm only PMing people about all of this so I don't have to resort to reporting them, getting them in trouble with the staff, wasting the staff's time, etc. If I can reach a compromise with other artists about tags, then there shouldn't be a need to involve the staff.

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    @rx

    i don't see how that definition is... different but okay. also, a simple google search of 'kemonomimi' will basically give you the sense it's a person with animal like features. yes, i draw furries. it does not make my kemonomimi furry.

    also, can i ask why you only mention /adult/ pics? isn't that what a nsfw or porn or any other sexual word is for, not just.. anthro? anthro doesn't mean it's automatically porn. please explain this to me because i don't understand what you're even getting at.
    Last edited by ali; 10-19-2012 at 05:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ali View Post
    also, can i ask why you only mention /adult/ pics? isn't that what a nsfw or porn or any other sexual word is for, not just.. anthro? anthro doesn't mean it's automatically porn. please explain this to me because i don't understand what you're even getting at.
    He wants to fap without seeing cat ears, basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    He wants to fap without seeing cat ears, basically.
    what a reason that is probably the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by ali View Post
    also, can i ask why you only mention /adult/ pics? isn't that what a nsfw or porn or any other sexual word is for, not just.. anthro? anthro doesn't mean it's automatically porn. please explain this to me because i don't understand what you're even getting at.
    I just don't like furry/anthro/kemonomimi/etc. porn. I used to, but that was a long time ago. Also, I do know anthro =/= porn, which is why I only have the anthro tag blocked on adult pics. Otherwise I'm okay with non-porn and tasteful nude anthros.

    Which does remind me, I do want to look through your gallery some time. You do have a cool art style.

    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    He wants to fap without seeing cat ears, basically.
    Pfffft

 

 

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