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Zhag
07-14-2015, 09:29 PM
I am really liking the overall look of Weasyl, but I think there is something still off for me, which is what turned me off from Sofurry initially, and I'm still having problems with enjoying other alternatives such as Inkbunny or this place, and that is the lack of a 'dark theme' to be enabled by the user. And I do like the dark, off grey background on here currently, not so sure about the random airbrushes of green and purple I see misted over top of it. On my monitor the 'grey' background also seems to lean towards the purple end of the spectrum (just ever so slightly). I'm kind of a purist, and I feel like too many shades, hues, or patterns around uploaded artwork messes with the eye.

There is something comforting about typing lighter, or colored text in a darker messaging box. I don't know anybody on FA personally, who actually uses their original light theme, so aside from FA, I've been on other sites for a very long time that avoid the use of stark white and black text boxes, and pages.

Options for dark theme:


Darker greys (cool grey) as background behind browsing artwork in galleries, favorites, or folders, since cool colors recede from other colors, cool grey is perfect for remaining neutral, and highlighting artwork.
Darker message boxes, so as you are spending time typing, not feeling eye strain.
Main body of profiles can be neutral cool grey in color, of ever so slightly varying shades, much like there is currently with the profile pages, but darker and with lighter text.


To sum it up, I like dark themes, because I feel more inclined to stick around and spend more time around weasyl without feeling like my eyes are being bleached. The only option of having artwork positioned at the top, before the intro/journal, still seems weird to me. But that's something I'll have to talk about another time, or look around the discussion forums for.

I'll see about taking screen shots, and perhaps spend a bit of time doing some example mockups. What do you guys think?

skrimp
07-15-2015, 12:38 AM
I think your problem could be solved with Stylish, provided you are keen on the ways of the css and such. That way you can edit the theme colors to exactly your liking.

Irbisgreif
07-15-2015, 12:58 AM
provided you are keen on the ways of the css and such

A rather big 'provided' that is~

Zhag
07-15-2015, 01:03 AM
I think your problem could be solved with Stylish, provided you are keen on the ways of the css and such. That way you can edit the theme colors to exactly your liking.

This totally misses the point of the discussion, which is to bring the option for a darker theme to the average user. Stylish does look interesting though, and through it also saw an app called 'dark tube,' stuff I'm interested in, but having the change in light to dark styling to Weasyl, providing an option readily available, is something FA does better.

skrimp
07-15-2015, 03:01 AM
A rather big 'provided' that is~

It's not that hard. Here's what I stylish-ed so far. I don't really know the hex values for what Zhag wanted but as an example I think this shows the power the plug-in has for adjusting things to an individual's liking.

http://s5.postimg.org/71g3yjb5j/example.jpg

In retrospect having users be able to put in their own colors or background images for browsing / user pages, would be neat. " Themes " could be a new submission type. Obviously in concept default themes could still be used or defaulted to if someone didn't like another's theme or to use one's theme for the whole of the site. I'm also curious about how the current theme is seen by various color-blind types.

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update

Stylish: Simple Dark Theme for Weasyl (https://userstyles.org/styles/116469/weasyl-background-333) version 1

ganache
07-15-2015, 12:20 PM
I think scripts are a fine fix, but I can see where they fall short on mobile devices or browsers that aren't yours to customize.

skrimp
07-17-2015, 09:00 AM
I agree completely. I was just trying to help :3. I also agree with the general thought that Weasel should have a darker "easier-on-the-eyes" theme, especially in regards to text being on dark backgrounds as a option, similar to how PS and Krita have.

I included a sample picture of the dark themes from the programs mentioned.
http://s5.postimg.org/68re5dlx3/example.jpg

Irbisgreif
07-17-2015, 02:43 PM
It's not that hard.

Okay, there's a few problems with that thinking. First, not everyone is skilled at computer coding, most people see it as a big mess of random symbols and aren't going to be able to dive into the code. Second, CSS is not the most complex thing out there, but even for computer savvy persons loading a basic website option into 'just write some stuff in this language you may or may not know' is a bit silly. Certainly fine to have it as an option but it's not fine to make it the only option.

Imagine if you went to a website and saw the following:


I would like to be able to log out from any page.


I think your problem could be solved with JScript4FireFox, provided you are keen on the ways of the Javascript and such. That way you can edit the logout code to your liking.

(N.b. I'm not commenting on security here. I'm mainly trying to show how that's not really a good solution overall b/c it pushes a single browser and requires knowledge from website users.)

SugaryParade
08-09-2015, 06:12 AM
I am actually almost the opposite and would prefer a lighter theme. I feel like the bold darkness overshadows the tiny pixels I tend to upload. ^^;

Perhaps they could create multiple site themes for users to choose from?

skrimp
08-09-2015, 06:35 AM
I like your thinking.

Vas
08-20-2015, 08:42 PM
No one wants to install a browser addon or tool in order to theme a website. The site should have multiple available themes. It's not hard to do at all, just requires multiple CSS files and an option in the user's profile.

Firehazard
08-23-2015, 06:28 PM
In retrospect having users be able to put in their own colors or background images for browsing / user pages, would be neat. " Themes " could be a new submission type. Obviously in concept default themes could still be used or defaulted to if someone didn't like another's theme or to use one's theme for the whole of the site.
This is an excellent suggestion.


I'm also curious about how the current theme is seen by various color-blind types.
And this is an excellent point. Canada actually has a law governing readability of sites hosted there; you have to run the site through a system that checks for contrast between text and background and whether links can be identified as such in grayscale, etc. I know because I had to run a site through it for work once and fix whatever wasn't compliant. I personally think their system is a bit too touchy, but for something that aims to serve such a large userbase, it would be nice to see how far short of the mark it falls and make some tweaks if necessary.

dischimera
08-23-2015, 06:47 PM
I'm color blind, and personally I don't see anything wrong with Weasyl's default theme. All dark BG and light gray boxes. Looks neutral and non intrusive. The lighter dark behind submissions seems to decrease the irritation in the eyes too.