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Kaliaen
03-05-2014, 05:24 PM
Sketch dumps and studies! Making it a goal to sketch something not school-related every day; therefore, I hope to post something here everyday. I'm open to critique! What I'm specifically trying to improve:
-anatomy
-interesting poses
-shading
-interesting, engaging characters
-anything else that people think I can improve

I have LOTS of room to grow and get better, so any feedback at all would be great. :)

So, let's get started!

Lizard dude- his name is probably gonna be Al. Because what's better than a lizard named Al?
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG692_zps9fae0e87.jpg (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/Zantilona77/media/IMG692_zps9fae0e87.jpg.html)

Mega Charizard Y (aka self-indulgent fanart)
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG693_zps9e66db2a.jpg (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/Zantilona77/media/IMG693_zps9e66db2a.jpg.html)

Dragon head.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG694_zpsba8eeb4a.jpg (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/Zantilona77/media/IMG694_zpsba8eeb4a.jpg.html)

One of my characters- Kolath, otherwise known as Ko. He's fun to draw.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG695_zpsef2b0034.jpg (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/Zantilona77/media/IMG695_zpsef2b0034.jpg.html)

Ko again.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG689_zpscf552531.jpg (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/Zantilona77/media/IMG689_zpscf552531.jpg.html)

Animal sketches! Technically these are for one of my classes, but I learned a lot from them.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/animaldrawingspsd_zps097b25ea.jpg (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/Zantilona77/media/animaldrawingspsd_zps097b25ea.jpg.html)

Random face. I have major issues with drawing people...
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG696_zpsd6d9abad.jpg (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/Zantilona77/media/IMG696_zpsd6d9abad.jpg.html)

Chubby crocodiles make everything better.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG697_zps0628b372.jpg (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/Zantilona77/media/IMG697_zps0628b372.jpg.html)

That's it for now; I'll hopefully have more soon.

Moogle
03-05-2014, 05:31 PM
Woo! :D Glad to see that you'll be making a sketchbook, these look terrific! That dragon's head really caught my eye, lovin' the shape of t. The way you do the shadow/light scratches are neat, too. Can't wait to see more! :x3:

Kaliaen
03-05-2014, 06:12 PM
Thanks, I'm glad you think so! I'm rather fond of that guy's head shape as well; he's really fun to draw! The light and shadow hatching is really fun too; I think it adds a lot more variety. :)

lorenith
03-06-2014, 01:51 PM
These are pretty fun, although I notice almost everything is in profile (except those cute Rhinos).

Sammacha
03-06-2014, 02:47 PM
Hmmm Dragon head shots and dinosaurs... Some of my favorite things to draw

Kaliaen
03-06-2014, 06:08 PM
@lorenith Yeah, I have a major over-reliance on profile shots- I haven't practiced enough with front and 3/4 quarter views; so I have a really hard time with them. I'll work on that!

@Sammacha Dragons and dinosaurs are the best things to draw. :D


EDIT: Didn't have a lot of time to do sketches today; so here's some button designs I'll be selling at a convention later this month. :)

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/bulbasaurbutton_zpscc1e4467.jpg

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/charmanderbutton_zpse329e288.jpg

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/squirtlebutton_zps5dde385c.jpg

Not entirely sure what's up with those colors.... I think the website I'm using to host the images is doing something to them, but no idea what. It might be 'cause they're formatted in CMYK instead of RGB due to the fact that they'll be printed, but I'm not entirely sure. Ah well, pretend they're less vivid I guess? *shrugs*

Kaliaen
03-07-2014, 10:10 PM
I was pretty busy packing today(spring break here I come!!!) and only had time for this quick little doodle:

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/headshot_zpsade3ea4a.jpg

Good practice for 3/4 view at least! And drawing fuzzy things is always fun.

Moowa
03-08-2014, 06:43 AM
Your designs are really unique and different.
Kolath's design is super cool, AI's colours are nice too.
I'll be checking in here often, I can tell!

Kaliaen
03-08-2014, 02:58 PM
Your designs are really unique and different.
Kolath's design is super cool, AI's colours are nice too.
I'll be checking in here often, I can tell!

Thanks, I'm glad you like them! And I'm really happy to hear you'll be checking in often! :)



Here's a progress shot of a picture of Ko I'm doing digitally:

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/progress2_zps9a324f95.png

Inspired by an art trade I had with Moogle recently, I'm trying to make Ko look more realistic and interesting. It's a lot of fun; especially since I'm doing it digitally. :)

Kaliaen
03-08-2014, 05:05 PM
Apologies for the double post!


Finished up my picture of Ko; and revealing the purpose of it:

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/KoComparison_zps9d3c40bd.jpg

My very first drawing of Kolath next to the most recent. Proof that I am improving; something that I have a hard time remembering when I'm having a hard day, or when a school assignment doesn't come out how I wanted. Makes me look forward to where I'll be in another year or so! :D

And here's the piece by itself if anyone wants to take a look:
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/KolathMthkari382014_zps2c91deba.jpg

lorenith
03-08-2014, 05:07 PM
I really love the bright colors you've got going. :)

And it looks like you're pretty good at drawing not profiles! So I'm glad you're drawing more.

Kaliaen
03-08-2014, 06:11 PM
I really love the bright colors you've got going. :)

And it looks like you're pretty good at drawing not profiles! So I'm glad you're drawing more.

Thanks, I'm really fond of the bright colors as well! And haha, I'm glad you think so, I'm working really hard to improve drawing them!


Today's sketching- my assignment for myself was to practice figure drawing.

WARNING: slightly NSFW under the cut. Features naked people.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/figuredrawingpractice_zps39151629.jpgReferences for the figures:
1 (http://danika-stock.deviantart.com/art/Variant-421777929)
2 (http://achilles58.deviantart.com/art/Beauty-4-438538759)
3 (http://katloveresource.deviantart.com/art/Figure-38-436953018)


I have a really difficult time with drawing people, so practicing them can be rather painful. xD

Moogle
03-08-2014, 08:36 PM
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/KolathMthkari382014_zps2c91deba.jpg

This really came out amazing! I'm glad you were inspired by our trade, it was sure a great experience for me as well. Can't wait to see more of this character. :x3:


Today's sketching- my assignment for myself was to practice figure drawing.

WARNING: slightly NSFW under the cut. Features naked people.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/figuredrawingpractice_zps39151629.jpgReferences for the figures:
1 (http://danika-stock.deviantart.com/art/Variant-421777929)
2 (http://achilles58.deviantart.com/art/Beauty-4-438538759)
3 (http://katloveresource.deviantart.com/art/Figure-38-436953018)


I have a really difficult time with drawing people, so practicing them can be rather painful. xD

Woo! Great start on these. I find doing fluid curve lines help with doing these, rather than straight scratchy type ones.

Kaliaen
03-08-2014, 09:10 PM
This really came out amazing! I'm glad you were inspired by our trade, it was sure a great experience for me as well. Can't wait to see more of this character. :x3:



Woo! Great start on these. I find doing fluid curve lines help with doing these, rather than straight scratchy type ones.

Thanks! Your way of drawing Ko gave me so many ideas; the anatomy you used for him was so stunning I just had to try some of it out myself. :x3:
That's great advice, I'll definitely try that when I next do figure drawings! :D


Yet more art; the fact that it's the first day of spring break has left me really inspired to work on artwork. Pokemon drawings 'cause why not?
Mega Kangaskan:
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/kanga2_zpsb9814366.png

Mega Ampharos:
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/ampharos_zps9db48fcd.png

Kaliaen
03-09-2014, 05:58 PM
I've been a bad art student and been very lazy so far today; so have some WIPs from last night's work session:

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/ampharos2_zps4f25628b.png
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/Kanga3_zps68b37ba4.png

Doing Pokemon is a great way to relax; I've been enjoying these. Depending on if I can muster up the energy to work later I might have some studies or other work to post later in the evening. :)

Kaliaen
03-10-2014, 12:25 AM
Away from the silly Pokemon doodles and onto some actual practice! For tonight I have some quick drawings of my hand holding a flashlight; tomorrow I hope to work on some drawing from life and maybe some figure studies. Also plan to start working on my spring break homework- don't want that sneaking up on me later in the week!

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG722_zps4a32c876.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG723_zps766ef8a4.jpg


And a quick question for anyone who feels like answering- what do my fellow artists think has helped them improve the most? A common answer I've heard is drawing from life; and I'm curious to see if anyone agrees or disagrees. :)

Archidae
03-10-2014, 12:34 AM
Oooh, I really love your dinosaur and reptile designs! Ko... I think he's the one with the skull face. He's really interesting to look at! I love his design and colors. His face is the most interesting of all.

Your hand holding flashlight practice is really good for quicky sketches, I like the way they look. They're sketch but you got pretty accurate hand anatomy there.

What has helped me improve the most? Doodling with friends and from life. The more you look at life, the more you notice how things work, move and look. You see perspective from every angle in life. But I find the thing that helps me improve the things I usually focus on is drawing with other people which I do on a regular basis. Seeing how someone else draws a form and watching them amidst their progress to see how they do it. Then you can try their method for yourself. I've developed new methods I would never have thought of if I hadn't drawn with my friends Crow and Renon. :3

What about you?

Kaliaen
03-10-2014, 12:55 AM
Oooh, I really love your dinosaur and reptile designs! Ko... I think he's the one with the skull face. He's really interesting to look at! I love his design and colors. His face is the most interesting of all.

Your hand holding flashlight practice is really good for quicky sketches, I like the way they look. They're sketch but you got pretty accurate hand anatomy there.

What has helped me improve the most? Doodling with friends and from life. The more you look at life, the more you notice how things work, move and look. You see perspective from every angle in life. But I find the thing that helps me improve the things I usually focus on is drawing with other people which I do on a regular basis. Seeing how someone else draws a form and watching them amidst their progress to see how they do it. Then you can try their method for yourself. I've developed new methods I would never have thought of if I hadn't drawn with my friends Crow and Renon. :3

What about you?

Thanks, I'm really glad you find them interesting! And yep, Ko is the one with the skull face. :)

I'm really glad to hear the hand anatomy is accurate; I have a really hard time with it- fingers are such a pain to draw, especially when you have skinny fingers like mine! :x3:

That sounds like a really great way to improve; it must be amazing to go out and draw with a group of friends! Maybe I'll try and convince some of my fellow students to go out drawing with me sometime(you'd be surprised how reluctant some art students can be to work on art that isn't schoolwork...). Getting the perspective of other artists sounds invaluable. Where/what do you and your friends usually draw? Do you go out and draw in public places to see the world go by, or do you usually prefer to stay close to home for it?

Hm, for me I'd say looking at other people's artwork has helped me the most so far. Seeing the decisions they make, how they choose to depict different subject matter, is really useful for me personally. As useful as it though, I bet once I do more life drawing I'll change my mind, haha!

Archidae
03-10-2014, 01:10 AM
It really depends on my mood at the time, usually I prefer the comfort of my home. It's been a long while since I've gone out to draw with anyone because I don't know anyone who lives right near me who is an artist these days. So for a long while I have been relying on online drawing sessions through open canvas 1.1 and the use of hamachi to connect to my friends and draw over the internet digitally in real time. :) It's really fun and interactive.

Seeing the way other artists draw is actually very useful. I have found easier ways to draw the human body than I ever thought possible, even learned to draw dragon faces pretty well (which I don't do often enough). Watching someone as they draw is definitely invaluable because it helps to know where they start and how they build off their form.

For in person drawing I used to go to parks with a small group of friends, we'd all sit around an object and draw it from the angle we had. Or one of use would sit in the middle of the rest of us and we'd doodle the way they were sitting. Sometimes we'd do a random drawing from a word. Like pick a word and draw what first comes to mind when you think of the word. We all had our own OCs so sometimes we'd doodle a little scene by passing a sketch book around and doodling in our OC doing something with one of theirs. Things like that. :3

I've learned a lot of things from drawing with friends that I would never have learned by just looking up anatomy references and the work of other artists.

Sammacha
03-10-2014, 04:45 AM
Not a bad job on the hand, maybe try breaking it into more shapes. The second one is better imo, the first one, the tip of the thumb is too small, and the knuckle looks too tiny/skinny. THE nail should be a bit wider imo

Kaliaen
03-10-2014, 01:35 PM
@Archidae: Online drawing sessions sound fun; I've actually never done one of those. I've hosted a few livestreams, but usually no one showed up; haha! I'll have to try a drawing session some time instead! :) What exactly is hamachi? I looked it up, but Wikipedia has failed me and gave me an overly-technical explanation. haha!
It sounds like working with other people is a really great way to learn; I'll definitely have to try arranging to do so with some of my friends! :)

@Sammacha: Thanks so much for the feedback, I'll definitely use it in my next practice. I'll do my best to incorporate more shapes into them as well! :)

Archidae
03-10-2014, 03:38 PM
It really is fun. Sometimes it gets so silly I have to put down my tablet pen and stop to laugh because I just can't keep going with drawing. Things get so crazy sometimes but I've pulled out a lot of good collabs with my friends from Open Canvas network sessions.

Hamachi is called LogMeIn Hamachi. It's a networking program that's used mainly in games like Minecraft, Terraria and other such games but with OpenCavanas 1.1 you can connect to each other through OpenCanvas and draw together in real time; if you minimize you'll have to let the data catch up and load whatever the other person has drawn while it was minimized. It's a very old version of OpenCanvas so you need to be patient with it but it's worth it in the long run and it's WAY better than any live drawing which is offered on any of those websites which allow real time drawing.

Hamachi basically gives you a unique "hamachi" IP, you can connect with another persons computer. You create a network, give it a name and a password if you want it secured or you join one which is as simple as putting in the name of the network name of someone else and the password they chose. Though it does connect your computer to another persons, it is entirely safe; I keep it on all the time. You can turn your networks offline when you're not using them so you don't actually need to close hamachi for any reason because it isn't dangerous, I've never had any problems with it or heard of anyone getting viruses from it either. I turn off my networks when I'm not drawing or playing a game with anyone.

It's not very complicated to use at all.

Sammacha
03-10-2014, 07:00 PM
no problem, but it will make your like easier later, it can be a bit frustrating in the beginning.

hamachi is only an issue if the person on the other end is a jerk :/
its really great for many may things, its a private network for your personal use basically

Kaliaen
03-10-2014, 07:12 PM
@Archidae: Sounds really cool; I'll have to try it sometime! :)


I was pretty busy again today; but here are some quick Loomis studies that I did. Having a really difficult time with them, but I can tell they'll help me improve! :) Not much for today; but I promised myself I'd put more art up everyday- not gonna break that promise this soon, haha.

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG724_zps5f68bc64.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG725_zps76d512ac.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG726_zps39f2f69c.jpg


And as a bonus, the start of a list of things that will hopefully help me improve in the long run(apologies for my atrocious handwriting):
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG729_zpsa51019bf.jpg
Let me know if there's anything that you think I should add to the list! :)

Archidae
03-10-2014, 07:17 PM
-Leg positions and perspectives
-Arm positions and perspectives
-Foreshortening practice
-Varying pose art
-Different body types (short/stout, tall/lean, tall/thin, short/thin, muscular, slender. Both men and women).

Kaliaen
03-10-2014, 10:37 PM
@Archidae: Thanks a bunch; those have been added to the list! :D



Did a pixelovely gesture drawing class session this evening; it was quite useful! Under the cut are some five minutes, a 11 minute, and a 30 minute. I didn't include the 30 second ones because, to put it nicely, they were atrocious looking. xD Gotta practice more more more!!! :D

WARNING: Images under the cut are NSFW due to nudity.

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG738_zpse481373c.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG739_zps2ade0ce2.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG730_zpsce9b947a.jpg


I've noticed I have a really bad habit of rushing the shorter ones- I need to remember that 30 seconds is longer than you think; especially when doing gestures.

Kaliaen
03-11-2014, 08:25 PM
Not a lot to put up tonight; most of today's practice was me taking notes from Proko's videos on figure drawing. But here's some quick gestures I have from today!

WARNING: Images under the cut are NSFW due to nudity.

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG740_zps52fb7ef3.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG742_zpsfed273d6.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG741_zpsc116c8cd.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG744_zpsc0e1ab03.jpg


People are so hard to draw... But that's what practice is for!!!!

Kaliaen
03-15-2014, 03:01 PM
Wow, I can't believe I let myself miss so many days. :'D My only excuse is that with the end of spring break comes an absolutely absurd amount of packing and rushing around to make sure nothing is left behind. :x3: Now that I'm settled back into my dorm, I should be able to get back to posting art at least once a day!

Nothing new for the reasons stated above, so here's some finished pieces from this past summer to make up for it:

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/Charmeleon_zps777c1103.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/JungleLizardSpeedpaint_zpsb8765951.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/TheBorder-Copy_zps28701973.jpg
Despite the fact that these are old; these are some of the only finished digital pieces I've done; so critique and ways to improve are still quite useful! :)

lorenith
03-15-2014, 03:16 PM
Well mostly they don't look finished, and the colors don't have very good unity in some cases particularly the bottom. (I think you've probably addressed that since then, cause other more recentness things you have shared don't hurt my eyes with the colors, it could also just be that right now my eyes are a bit light sensitive though?)

The first two have some really nice starts of texturing going on and such.

I'm not going to comment on anatomy and things, because these are from a year ago, and I don't think critiquing such things would really be of much use to you, cause like I said you've already improved your art noticeably from these to now.

Kaliaen
03-21-2014, 05:52 PM
@Lorenith Hahaha, yeah, you're totally right. The colors of all my old pieces are absolutely horrible. xD


Again, sorry for the delay, I'm afraid I underestimated how busy school would keep me! Hopefully once I get caught up on work this weekend I'll be able to work in my sketchbook more. :)

To start things off on a happy note; here's a kitty cat:

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG770_zpsd044f84e.jpg

And here's some gestures, done with a pentel brush pen- I've found that using a brush pen with quick gestures helps me a lot; as I tend to get overly-stressed when drawing the human form due to the fact that it's so hard for me. The brush pen helps me stay relaxed and forces me to keep my lines fluid.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG775_zpsd896254f.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG776_zps69b34a1f.jpg

And as a small bonus, here's something I'm currently working on in class. For the assignment, we first made a collage of some beautiful figure drawings by old chinese masters; and now we're drawing the collages we made with charcoal. (It's way more fun that it sounds, promise) It's not finished yet, but it will be soon since it's due on Tuesday.

Under the cut due to nudity.

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG769_zps700b74ea.jpg


And continuing the theme of asking people questions; what do all of you do when you're feeling frustrated about not improving enough; or feeling as if you never will? This is something I struggle with daily due to the fact that I'm surrounded by amazing art students everyday, so I'm really curious as to how others deal with it!

lorenith
03-21-2014, 06:25 PM
Those are some really wonderful gestures!

Accept that your skill is always going to be a work in process, and don't think about how fast you improve. Different people grow at different rates, and you shouldn't compare your personal growth rate to others.

I deal with it by not really dwelling on it, but I had some studio major peers who bordered on emotional abuse with how they talked to me about my art and what I should be doing instead. I felt dead inside for nearly a year after I finally graduated and got away from it all, and I made almost no art at all because I'd pick up a pencil and immediately just feel like "why bother". I wish I didn't do that, because the more regularly I draw the better I get. I stopped for a year and that set me back, cause as soon as I stop drawing I actually go backwards pretty quickly, art for me anyway definitely is not like riding a bike lol.

I think one of the funnest things to do is to look back at slightly older art, it's almost always better than I felt about it when I left it. There's always some small parts that are good, even if the whole isn't so much.

Kaliaen
03-23-2014, 08:35 PM
@Lorenith: Great advice, I'll definitely keep all that in mind! Glad to hear that you did end up going back to art even after dealing with all that- a lot of people give up on it completely after having a horrible experience like that; so it's great that you got back to it! :) And yeah, going back to old art is pretty fun. I recently found a drawing from the very beginning of middle school; it was hilariously bad.


Art update!

Here's the finished collage drawing I had a WIP of last time (under the cut due to nudity):

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG783_zps9f5510d2.jpg

Hopefully the teacher likes it; I spent around 6-9 hours sloooowly doing the shading so the charcoal wouldn't smudge. @__@

Here's some 30-sec animal gestures, under the cut because they're gestures and they're shitty like gestures usually are. Done with a brush pen.

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG786_zpsd59ea1c0.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG787_zps80478631.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG788_zps3fab040b.jpg


Some stuff from around my room. A spray bottle, my foot, and my two bonsai trees.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG784_zps8ea7bd8a.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG785_zps2e495d24.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG792_zps2ef51495.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG793_zpsc2e51af3.jpg

And as a bonus, you guys get to be the first to see Micah; a character in my upcoming Y Nuzlocke comic. Only a quick sketch; but hopefully soon I'll be able to start the comic itself! I'm neck-deep in planning, so I'm hoping I'll be able to have it fully planned and thumbnailed in time for the start of summer. I'm really excited about starting it! :D
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG794_zps617d6b49.jpg

Archidae
03-31-2014, 02:24 PM
You made some nice gestures for 30 seconds. Also, I have some respect for you from your use of charcoal, that's quite good.

Kaliaen
03-31-2014, 02:49 PM
@Archidae: Thanks so much!! I think using a brush pen really helps; it keeps your lines nice and fluid. :) As for the charcoal; that entailed lots of swearing and patience :x3:


Sorry for the long delay in posting more art; I attended a convention this weekend and sold art! It went surprisingly well, I made back the cost of the table and a little bit extra. And now I have lots of ideas for next time! Here's some doodles from during the convention:

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG839_zps4227c0ae.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG840_zps36eb6d20.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG842_zps0061bc11.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG846_zpse2dcea9b.jpg

And here's some face practice:http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG844_zpsbe3b001b.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG845_zps3accc5d7.jpg

As an extra, here's a self-portrait from my Compositional Drawing class, done with red, black, and white conte crayon.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG838_zpsfbccc452.jpg
Apologies for the lousy quality; it's quite big so taking a picture of it in any kind of decent lighting while in my dorm room is pretty difficult.

Sammacha
03-31-2014, 02:51 PM
Lol the foot, that seems very random xD

Good job drawing things that are in you daily life.

inejwstine
04-01-2014, 08:35 PM
I really like your finished version of Ko on the first page of this thread! Do you have it on weasyl so I can fav it?

Kaliaen
04-01-2014, 08:58 PM
Lol the foot, that seems very random xD

Good job drawing things that are in you daily life.

Thanks, I've been trying to do it more since it's such great practice! And haha, yeah, I was sitting in bed with my sketchbook and didn't feel like getting up to find something to draw. My foot seemed like a good alternative. :x3:


I really like your finished version of Ko on the first page of this thread! Do you have it on weasyl so I can fav it?

Thanks! Do you mean this one? https://www.weasyl.com/submission/516728/kolath-mth-kari I have a different one in the first post of the thread; but this one looks more complete so I'm assuming this is the one you meant???


Pretty busy with class today; but have a quick watercolor study of an elephant! I love watercolors. <3
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/elephant001_zps51c5a088.jpg

inejwstine
04-01-2014, 09:16 PM
Yep, that's the one I meant. Thanks! You're art is looking very nice. Good job on those figure drawings; figure drawing is a weakness of mine. ^^;

Kaliaen
04-02-2014, 08:09 AM
Yep, that's the one I meant. Thanks! You're art is looking very nice. Good job on those figure drawings; figure drawing is a weakness of mine. ^^;

Thanks, I'm glad you like my art! :D As for the figure drawing, it's all about the practice! The more you do it the better you'll be at it. :)

Moogle
04-02-2014, 05:09 PM
Your watercolour's superb! So eye pleasing hehe :D

lorenith
04-02-2014, 06:20 PM
I think your watercolor would look a bit nicer if you had used inks or something for the outlines rather than pen ink.

The watercolor is nice, but the pen kind of takes away from it. :|

Also if you don't want me dropping in and dopping bits of critique, let me know, I'll stop. :)

inejwstine
04-10-2014, 07:43 PM
I think your watercolor would look a bit nicer if you had used inks or something for the outlines rather than pen ink.

The watercolor is nice, but the pen kind of takes away from it. :|

Also if you don't want me dropping in and dopping bits of critique, let me know, I'll stop. :)

Mmm, I dunno. I think the line just needs to be more crisp and clean. I've seen some very good watercolor pieces that outline in pen. Some great examples can be seen here: http://www.prophecyofthecircle.com/ It's a webcomic done entirely in pen and watercolors.

lorenith
04-10-2014, 08:02 PM
The comic you linked would also look much better if it used ink rather than a pen.

Sammacha
04-11-2014, 01:47 AM
Maybe you could try a different kind of pen, i myself agree with lorenith but i also think it could look really nice done with deeper colors in another style

Kaliaen
04-11-2014, 06:38 PM
Your watercolour's superb! So eye pleasing hehe :D

Thank you! :D


I think your watercolor would look a bit nicer if you had used inks or something for the outlines rather than pen ink.

The watercolor is nice, but the pen kind of takes away from it. :|

Also if you don't want me dropping in and dopping bits of critique, let me know, I'll stop. :)

I'm always happy to get critique; feel free to continue doing so!!! I definitely agree; I was using microns, which really don't lend themselves well to good, varied line quality. For my next watercolor animal I'll try using my brush pen. :)


Maybe you could try a different kind of pen, i myself agree with lorenith but i also think it could look really nice done with deeper colors in another style

I agree about the pen; next time I'll use my brush pen! What kinds of styles would you suggest? :)


Sketchbook update! Sorry it's so late; finals are rapidly approaching!!

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG902_zps3f437eee.jpg
A watercolor study of coral for my design final.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG894_zps1867f339.jpg
A watercolor study of a dolphin for my design final.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG905_zps0d8ff64a.jpg
The linework for my design final!
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG900_zps6dd8416b.jpg
A doodle of a dog.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/fluffmonstermale_zpsb4581b49.png
A fluff monster (actual name of the species is a Creft, but meh). Thinking about making adoptables of this species if I get the time.
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/Nudibranchbaseddragon_zps3f74b7b3.png
And a sea dragon based on a nudibranch (look them up if you don't know what that is; they're cool!) for a contest over on dA. Might make more varieties/subspecies of this guy when I get the chance, it was a lot of fun to design.

lorenith
04-11-2014, 07:10 PM
Man you're prolific!

Yeah I have tried watercolor with microns too, it always ends up looking the same as your elephant unless I do really thick lines, I always end up feeling really discontent with the look.


I guess if you want some style examples, you could look up Japanese brush work and watercolor, if I can find this old ink brushing technique book someone got me I can take some pictures from it to show you too if you like?

Sammacha
04-11-2014, 08:48 PM
I was going to say chinese water colour but japanese works just as well, I find this type of outline much better for the style you currently use

http://www.icollector.com/Chinese-Watercolor-Painting-Hanging-Scroll-Tiger_i12929780

the outline is there but it doesn't draw attention, its part of the picture as a whole and blends well, if you want to use such a solid outline I think deeper, more saturated colours like you see in anime

Moogle
04-11-2014, 11:40 PM
I'm really diggin' your coral, gosh watercolour's flippin amazing. I only wish I had the talent to use it without soaking the page into oblivion (I guess it just comes with practice). xD I hope you don't mind a bit of critique, just thought I'd give a tip on your little dog sketch.

http://i.imgur.com/B2dhF5T.png

It's best to try and keep your ground even (unless you've done it on purpose to fit the landscape), though I tend to have trouble with this as well but it really helps make your character stand more solid. :P

Kaliaen
04-12-2014, 07:45 PM
Man you're prolific!

Yeah I have tried watercolor with microns too, it always ends up looking the same as your elephant unless I do really thick lines, I always end up feeling really discontent with the look.


I guess if you want some style examples, you could look up Japanese brush work and watercolor, if I can find this old ink brushing technique book someone got me I can take some pictures from it to show you too if you like?

Sure, that'd be great! I always love seeing more examples of artwork, especially when I can apply it to my own work. :) It's possible to get really dynamic lines with micron, but I've found that it's almost always more trouble than it's worth when you could use a brush or brush pen instead. I think microns are more suited to smaller pieces of art.



I was going to say chinese water colour but japanese works just as well, I find this type of outline much better for the style you currently use

http://www.icollector.com/Chinese-Watercolor-Painting-Hanging-Scroll-Tiger_i12929780

the outline is there but it doesn't draw attention, its part of the picture as a whole and blends well, if you want to use such a solid outline I think deeper, more saturated colours like you see in anime

I'm happy to look at both chinese and japanese; I'm sure I can learn a lot from both! I'll definitely do some research and maybe make some studies based on what I find. :) That tiger hanging scroll is so lovely; the linework is so fluid and dynamic. I'm definitely gonna try and incorporate that into my own work! Thanks so much for showing it to me. :D


I'm really diggin' your coral, gosh watercolour's flippin amazing. I only wish I had the talent to use it without soaking the page into oblivion (I guess it just comes with practice). xD I hope you don't mind a bit of critique, just thought I'd give a tip on your little dog sketch.

http://i.imgur.com/B2dhF5T.png

It's best to try and keep your ground even (unless you've done it on purpose to fit the landscape), though I tend to have trouble with this as well but it really helps make your character stand more solid. :P

Thanks, I'm glad you like it! :) Watercolor is a lot about practice; but if you're having trouble soaking the paper you could try using a heavier watercolor paper. I tend to make mine extremely wet; but because of the weight it doesn't buckle too badly- and if it does I just let it dry before putting something heavy on it. I use 140 lb, also called 300 g/m^2, Strathmore cold press watercolor paper and it holds up pretty well. You could also use illustration board; which is virtually impossible to make buckle when using watercolor. I know a couple other ways to deal with buckling paper, let me know if you want to know any more!
Thanks soooo much for redlining it; I have such a hard time with paws and legs. Your paws are so delicate and adorable, haha! I'll make sure to work on keeping my ground even from now on.

lorenith
04-12-2014, 08:45 PM
Have you ever stretched your paper Kaliaen? That's what we did with our 140 lb stuff in class. We got the choice to use 300 lb but I personally didn't like it so I stuck to stretching, even though it was more time consuming.


(some 300lb paper is also double sided, so really good for practicing even for people who don't really like it much)

Archidae
04-13-2014, 02:44 PM
Oh wow it's been some time since I've looked at your sketch book. You upload so much more here than I do, I'm so paranoid about posting ALL of my sketches because they are mostly doodles where I don't give a damn about anatomy or anything, they're just for fun so I don't feel like I should upload them here. xD

Either way, you're making a LOT of progress with all your practice in drawing and water color and all that. Keep it up, really. I do look at what you upload ;v;

Kaliaen
04-13-2014, 05:58 PM
Have you ever stretched your paper Kaliaen? That's what we did with our 140 lb stuff in class. We got the choice to use 300 lb but I personally didn't like it so I stuck to stretching, even though it was more time consuming.


(some 300lb paper is also double sided, so really good for practicing even for people who don't really like it much)

I haven't actually; though I've seen it done before. I've considered doing it; but I'm usually too lazy hahaha


Oh wow it's been some time since I've looked at your sketch book. You upload so much more here than I do, I'm so paranoid about posting ALL of my sketches because they are mostly doodles where I don't give a damn about anatomy or anything, they're just for fun so I don't feel like I should upload them here. xD

Either way, you're making a LOT of progress with all your practice in drawing and water color and all that. Keep it up, really. I do look at what you upload ;v;

I upload a lot because I've found that it helps keep me motivated to see everything in one place! :) I don't post everything though; there's been some REALLY bad ones that I don't put up, haha. I'm really glad to hear that it looks like I'm making progress! :D


Sketchbook update!!!!
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG909_zps3148445f.jpg
This is a quick practice self portrait for a bigger one I'm working on- I wanted to get a basic idea of the pose down. I look so grumpy. :x3:

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/helmethoundswip_zps7a445873.png
A species idea of mine! I'm calling them helmet hounds. :) I might make some adoptables of these at some point; I have some fun ideas for the species as a whole.

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG911_zpsd61cb1fd.jpg
Put down the first few layers of watercolor. Going really slowly with this; I'm terrified of messing it up.

Archidae
04-14-2014, 12:21 PM
Oh man, I can't wait to see more of that water color. Just the first layer of it looks neat. I can kind of see where the light is coming in above the water. :3

Sammacha
04-14-2014, 10:38 PM
How come you do the line art first?
An honest question, just wondering as I always do mine last, but I hardly do water colours.

Kaliaen
04-15-2014, 10:10 AM
Oh man, I can't wait to see more of that water color. Just the first layer of it looks neat. I can kind of see where the light is coming in above the water. :3

Thanks, I'm rather looking forward to it being done too, haha! I'm really glad you can tell that the light is coming in above the water; I'm having a really hard time with it. This kind of scene is hard to render correctly!


How come you do the line art first?
An honest question, just wondering as I always do mine last, but I hardly do water colours.

I usually do the lineart first because for me it makes the watercolors easier to control- when I work without lines I have to go more slowly and let each area of color dry completely before I move onto the next so the colors don't bleed everywhere. I like working fast and jumping from area to area; so you can see why that wouldn't work for me! Especially when it's a final for class and needs to be done next week. @_@

lorenith
04-16-2014, 05:39 PM
If you ever do want to give it a try, paper won't buckle at all if you stretch it right, even if you completely drown it with water.

But yeah it is a bit time consuming, and seems to only really work good if you have a really good heavy duty stapler, and that weird tape that doesn't get sticky till you wet it. I tried it once with an old staple gun, and masking tape and the paper wasn't pulled tight or held down good enough to not buckle, twas really disappointing.

Kaliaen
04-29-2014, 04:16 PM
Wooow, just realized how long it's been since I posted something. This is what finals does to you, guys!!! (also, is it just me or are the forums really slow to load today? Everytime I click somewhere it takes at least a minute to load compared to the usual seconds)

Various doodles:
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG979_zps01439efe.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG978_zpsc8ded59b.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG977_zps5b4ec55c.jpg
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG944_zpsdc6d3491.jpg
This is a bunniraptor- they'll be available as adoptables soon!! :D
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG923_zpsdec9296d.jpg


I had to go through an end-of-year review, so here's a picture of my set up!
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p544/Zantilona77/IMG973_zps2f568b37.jpg

Now that reviews are over I should have plenty of time for artwork; so you should hopefully be seeing more activity from me! :)

Tiido
04-29-2014, 05:24 PM
The bunnyraptor is great :)

Sammacha
04-29-2014, 08:50 PM
What was the review for?

Kaliaen
04-29-2014, 10:07 PM
The bunnyraptor is great :)
Thanks, it was really fun to design! :D



What was the review for?
My school has everyone do reviews at the end of year- we pick some of our best pieces, and they give us feedback about our art in general and where they think we should go moving forward. They also give recommendations of artists they think we would benefit from looking at. :)

Sammacha
04-29-2014, 11:04 PM
My school has everyone do reviews at the end of year- we pick some of our best pieces, and they give us feedback about our art in general and where they think we should go moving forward. They also give recommendations of artists they think we would benefit from looking at. :)

O I see, we did something similar, but we did this every time a image what due so you could compare a similar work.
However we didn't get to choose and all you got were some random comments from highschool students, half of which didnt even care for art but were jut there for free marks. Overall, not very useful for me, too bad though, its quite a useful process.