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no_really
02-18-2014, 07:50 AM
http://www.unc.edu/~jemarti/marysuetest/

fun thing to play with.

you can find most of my characters under my weasyl page.

green got 0
orange got 17
cyan got 26

i can't really remember exactly, but silver got like -10, red got ~ -5, goldenrod got like 0, and purple got way into the negatives.

Greg
02-18-2014, 12:57 PM
15.

oh. i expected more gary stu.

Coboye
02-18-2014, 03:43 PM
-12
No big surprise there.

Socks the Fox
02-18-2014, 06:44 PM
I got a 6. 4 of those were the "has a cool outfit" and "wish I had it" options, but I swear I didn't come up with them! I'm just a minion in someone else's army. Actually several of the points are par for the setting type stuff. I guess I'm just kind of boringly average.

Of course, it doesn't help that my story's just kind of starting out, and said story is an RP hosted by someone else. I'm sure as things progress and my character develops I'll see it get into more interesting territory. It might also be a bit higher as I wasn't sure if the dinky "need something to be unique" feature I have counted, given that it's subtle enough that most wouldn't bat an eyelash at it (her pink nose). I counted the hair, though, even though it's just dye.

Vae
02-18-2014, 07:16 PM
Fursona: -10
Koopaling OC: 2

Carnau
02-25-2014, 03:42 PM
My fursona got a decent 12
"Your character is well-balanced. He or she has enough distinctive traits to stand out, but he or she also has some flaws. Although he or she has won some victories and accomplished some goals, the world doesn't bend to his or her will, and other characters treat him or her realistically. You probably don't need to worry about this character at all."
~Hells yeah

Matt Conner
02-25-2014, 07:59 PM
I love this quiz! These days most of my characters score somewhere in the singe digit negatives or positives, especially since I enjoy making characters that are not combat oriented.

Nightpaws
02-25-2014, 08:05 PM
Did mine for Matt Smith's Doctor Who and scored a mighty 236!

Your character is an extreme Mary Sue. He or she has every cool trait in the book. Even though he or she has a tragic past, he or she still manages to be the best at all kinds of things and to accomplish everything he or she tries. Rules don't apply to him or her. The other characters in the story are only there to praise your character and make him or her look good by comparison; anyone who dislikes your character is treated as an obvious villain. There isn't much hope for this character. You may as well scrap him or her and start over.


As much as I agree with this I still love Doctor Who :3

Antronach
02-25-2014, 11:27 PM
The MC in my book got a 10. Considering that he turns into a dragon, I guess I did good. :)

Dire Newt
02-26-2014, 12:47 AM
Most of my characters end up with a "well-balanced" score, but a few are "understated".

Zeitzbach
02-26-2014, 02:01 AM
Can't really do this test when 90% of the questions get me asking if it applies to my char or not since he is in a world where those things are all normal.

The only one I can really tick are the "You like his abilities" and "you like his uniform"

Netting me around 12 for Enfys.

Frank LeRenard
02-26-2014, 10:44 AM
I remember this. This was something I discovered a long time ago, and it actually really helped me out in terms of creating better characters; first time I took it, the protagonist of my novel scored pretty damned high... like 40 or 50 or something. Just for fun I ran the same character through it again just now, as he is now, and apparently he's down to a 6, which the site says might be too boring. Obviously this test is just a basic guideline; you want to make sure your characters are appropriate for whatever you're writing, is the take-away point as I gather it. But it can still be handy if you're concerned that you're going completely off the deep end.

I'm guessing most of my characters now probably score between 0 and 10, because that's just the way I roll these days. I do notice, though, that very few of these questions directly address the issue of personality. Like someone pointed out up there, you can have the Mary-Sue-iest character ever, like the Doctor, but you still love him because he's just so much fun.

Digitalpotato
02-26-2014, 11:47 AM
My fursona is a zero. :P

Also as a head's up some of these litmus tests don't really mention whether or not your character is a "sue", very often they contain questions the person(s) who wrote the test don't like seeing used in fiction.

I like how choosing to have your characters be single at the end of the story is a de-suifier. Does this count even if there's no romance in the story at all? :D

Vae
02-26-2014, 01:27 PM
My fursona is a zero. :P

Also as a head's up some of these litmus tests don't really mention whether or not your character is a "sue", very often they contain questions the person(s) who wrote the test don't like seeing used in fiction.

I like how choosing to have your characters be single at the end of the story is a de-suifier. Does this count even if there's no romance in the story at all? :D
I'm still amused at "mostly black clothes" being an indicator.

By that logic, I am the Sue-iest.

Matt Conner
02-26-2014, 07:15 PM
I'm still amused at "mostly black clothes" being an indicator.

By that logic, I am the Sue-iest.

Most of those traits don't really make a mary-sue on their own. I think the maker of the test uses a cooking analogy somewhere in there, a little bit of seasoning can make a dish much tastier, but if you add too much and in a way that doesn't make sense, you'll probably spoil it.

Digitalpotato
02-27-2014, 03:37 AM
I'm still amused at "mostly black clothes" being an indicator.

By that logic, I am the Sue-iest.

Especially if you might actually have a reason for that.

"Uh... I'm wearing an outfit that's required by my job to be mostly black...."
"OMG MARY SUE!!!!"

Vae
02-27-2014, 04:22 AM
Most of those traits don't really make a mary-sue on their own. I think the maker of the test uses a cooking analogy somewhere in there, a little bit of seasoning can make a dish much tastier, but if you add too much and in a way that doesn't make sense, you'll probably spoil it.
I understand that, but black clothing isn't really a "spice," either. Someone could wear a black t-shirt and dark jeans, and look pretty plain, but still constitute as "wearing mostly black clothes."

Hell, I would consider bright clothing to be far more of a "spice".

Nothing about the option says anything about the outfit being particularly noticeable or special.
It did also say "cool-looking" and "all leather", but those are also very easily made mundane. So is "sexy and revealing."
"Impractical" is the absolute only thing that would really fit in this scenario. And it's an extra check mark, not the initial / only one.


Especially if you might actually have a reason for that.

"Uh... I'm wearing an outfit that's required by my job to be mostly black...."
"OMG MARY SUE!!!!"
"I threw on my black t-shirt, black pajama pants, black Docs, and black jacket to go buy tampons at Walmart.
I placed my black sunglasses upon my face so as not to broadcast my pained, tired expression to the rest of the public, while my uterus tried to eat itself alive."

SUCH MARY SUE. SO OP.

Frank LeRenard
02-27-2014, 09:45 AM
I'm pretty sure it means 'wears mostly black all the time', as in the trope people use to imply bad-assery (e.g. The Matrix). I'm sure you can think of a badass who wears a black trenchcoat and black leather gloves and black leather boots over a black shirt and black jeans with black sunglasses even outside in the middle of summer in the Bahamas, because they're just so awesome that the heat doesn't even bother them. Or whatever. Not 'wears black uniform for work'.

And anyway, this is clearly written for tweens who write awful self-insert fanfiction. If you're more mature than that you probably don't need to be taking this test.

Matt Conner
02-27-2014, 05:13 PM
I mostly like suggesting the test to obnoxious roleplayers who's characters I know would score very high if they answered the questions honestly, hehe.

Digitalpotato
02-28-2014, 12:31 PM
^ Ugh, yes. >.<; one reason I've left a few RPs was because some people were basically making their characters into physical gods, and in order to catch up we all had to constantly start giving our characters major buffs.




And anyway, this is clearly written for tweens who write awful self-insert fanfiction. If you're more mature than that you probably don't need to be taking this test.

Especially because Mary Sue has changed a lot over the years - like how recently, it's become "Character I don't like". Personally I feel a Mary Sue is a character who the author is a little TOO proud of and works in as much as possible, even if it's absolutely contrived. ("We can't go an entire scene without this guy coming in!") Or doesn't have any conflict at ALL because they instantly solve everything - they're always right, they get away with murder, sucks up all the screentime whenever they appear on-screen, everyone constantly talks about how awesome this person is when they never back things up, they never screw up and if they do, never face penalties for it.

Billy MT
02-28-2014, 03:39 PM
24 o: Hey, better than what I hoped, being a monster tamer normally, having a sentient, parasitic crystal, and doing evil-alter-ego stuff with telekinesis and red sharp crystals all over...

MongooseApples
02-28-2014, 11:07 PM
Kimani's a 3. Probably because he isn't in any "stories"; he's just there.
Poor boy; he can't do anything without feeling bad.

JackalTeeth
03-04-2014, 03:30 AM
The character that's not one of my fursonas that I'm most proud of got a 17 (well balanced). I'm pretty happy about that, since I worked pretty hard on her story and personality, as well as her design!