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RyuDeacon
02-09-2014, 03:19 PM
Ive commissioned a new Reference Sheet for my Fursona, if redesigned some, and just wanna double check if everything is correct.

wip so far can be found here http://sta.sh/0216g63t4ogg (nsfw)

What id like to know is if the leg structure and Feet seem proportionate or to phrase it diferently are they wide or long/ muscled enough to support the upper body? should the Muscles in the Thighs be widened or are they fine as is? Are there any other problems that you see relating to balance?

Longer Torso, Neck and a more Male type Body Figure is apart of what was desired

Species is to be kind of Mongoose/Komodo Dragon Mix

Also Name suggestions(Musculine or Neurtal) are welcome if you like,ethnicy is half Dutch/half Native American(Alaska or north-west Pacific Coast).

QT Melon
02-09-2014, 03:43 PM
This is a fairly good drawing, but one of the things I noticed is that the ankles look rather week to help with counter balancing the figure.

I guess if you look at dinosaurs you'll notice how strong those ankles are and even foot placement

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-m3QElu5WeAI/UeVM7XLboQI/AAAAAAAA72c/HaZ9x7rg6r8/s800/bwithers_TRex_1.jpg

Or if you're up for some amusement, watch a chicken walk like a dinosaur.

http://io9.com/heres-a-chicken-wearing-a-prosthetic-tail-to-walk-like-1517456040

RyuDeacon
02-09-2014, 04:18 PM
So you sugest that the Heel should be raised more or Ancle Joint widened?

QT Melon
02-09-2014, 04:26 PM
I would say a bit of both. One to show that the feet are more planted and the other to show the strength in moving the feet with that kind of setup.

RyuDeacon
02-09-2014, 04:32 PM
I would say a bit of both. One to show that the feet are more planted and the other to show the strength in moving the feet with that kind of setup.
Do the thighs seem fine to you? Also thanks for the help, i apriciate it very much^^

QT Melon
02-09-2014, 04:47 PM
The thighs seem fine to me. It's hard doing characters like this because even if designed well they're not technically able to stand because of how counterbalance in the legs work. But I think adjusting the ankles and planting of the feet can help with something more believable.

RyuDeacon
02-09-2014, 05:38 PM
The thighs seem fine to me. It's hard doing characters like this because even if designed well they're not technically able to stand because of how counterbalance in the legs work. But I think adjusting the ankles and planting of the feet can help with something more believable.
ya thats understandible thru what do you mean by planting the feet if i may ask?

QT Melon
02-09-2014, 05:46 PM
ya thats understandible thru what do you mean by planting the feet if i may ask?

More of the feet on the ground.

wwretched
02-10-2014, 03:06 PM
To go along with the legs discussion, I'm excited to show of this reference (https://31.media.tumblr.com/7e7b4e38535bafd8433ee0e3d1c1542c/tumblr_n0qyfu9lWq1ql3tk1o1_500.png) I found the other day! It's a really good visual guide.

In addition, on the first view the head appears to be a bit smaller compared to the rest of the character. In the other views it looks fine, so perhaps scaling it up a bit would help. The neck on the third view also looks a bit strained, as if they're pulling their head back at an impossible angle. Moving the head and neck forward a bit might help it to feel more natural. And as a general thing, watch the fur. There's a lot of detail on it and I'm not sure if you're going for a messy look but that's how it's appearing. I guess just be aware of the detail? It's not a bad thing, but just keep an eye on it so that it doesn't go overboard.

Otherwise good work! You've got a really nice grasp on anatomy.

Moogle
02-10-2014, 04:00 PM
To go along with the legs discussion, I'm excited to show of this reference (https://31.media.tumblr.com/7e7b4e38535bafd8433ee0e3d1c1542c/tumblr_n0qyfu9lWq1ql3tk1o1_500.png) I found the other day! It's a really good visual guide.

In addition, on the first view the head appears to be a bit smaller compared to the rest of the character. In the other views it looks fine, so perhaps scaling it up a bit would help. The neck on the third view also looks a bit strained, as if they're pulling their head back at an impossible angle. Moving the head and neck forward a bit might help it to feel more natural. And as a general thing, watch the fur. There's a lot of detail on it and I'm not sure if you're going for a messy look but that's how it's appearing. I guess just be aware of the detail? It's not a bad thing, but just keep an eye on it so that it doesn't go overboard.

Otherwise good work! You've got a really nice grasp on anatomy.

Do you happen to have that in a bigger picture? I wouldn't mind reading over it. xD!

RyuDeacon
02-11-2014, 12:11 AM
To go along with the legs discussion, I'm excited to show of this reference (https://31.media.tumblr.com/7e7b4e38535bafd8433ee0e3d1c1542c/tumblr_n0qyfu9lWq1ql3tk1o1_500.png) I found the other day! It's a really good visual guide.

In addition, on the first view the head appears to be a bit smaller compared to the rest of the character. In the other views it looks fine, so perhaps scaling it up a bit would help. The neck on the third view also looks a bit strained, as if they're pulling their head back at an impossible angle. Moving the head and neck forward a bit might help it to feel more natural. And as a general thing, watch the fur. There's a lot of detail on it and I'm not sure if you're going for a messy look but that's how it's appearing. I guess just be aware of the detail? It's not a bad thing, but just keep an eye on it so that it doesn't go overboard.

Otherwise good work! You've got a really nice grasp on anatomy. Im also interested in the readable fullsize of that Image^^ As for the Head i honestly didnt notice that part about the size,
thanks for noting it as for the neck i see what you mean thru together with a long torso i also desired a longer neck that mounts behind the skull like a feral Animal or Dragon instead of directly under like a human...

And the Hairyness is completly desired as part of the redesign and seeing how people reference from the last reference i made for another one of my hairy characters i see a need for for actual texturing so they actualy draw fur instead of just colored skin. People who draw that Character also do the fur correctly but dont do that with my fursona because the actual thinkness of the Fur is not visble on the fursonas reference. Its to also note that this is still in the sketch phase so of cource it looks a bit messy.

One more thing, thanks for the praise, but as mentioned in the OP this is a wip for a new Fursona Reference Sheet ive commissioned on FA, in short i did not draw this.

- - - Updated - - -

Also something that just came to mind how much would you say he/she weighs roughly? Im still deciding if i should have him be 8 Foot 3 or 9 Foot 3 Tall so answers on both would be welcome.

Sammacha
02-11-2014, 12:58 AM
Do you happen to have that in a bigger picture? I wouldn't mind reading over it. xD!

There isn't anything written in it. All the boxes say are "info" " headshot" "pendant"

QT Melon
02-11-2014, 10:40 AM
PM wwretched and ask where it was from?

I did find these sites that have useful information as well.

http://myths-made-real.blogspot.com/2010/11/anatomy-youre-doin-it-wrong-furries.html

http://hippie.nu/~unicorn/tut/xhtml/

Sammacha
02-11-2014, 02:01 PM
PM wwretched and ask where it was from?

I did find these sites that have useful information as well.

http://myths-made-real.blogspot.com/2010/11/anatomy-youre-doin-it-wrong-furries.html

http://hippie.nu/~unicorn/tut/xhtml/


These are great tutorials, but I feel it would be much more helpful to give crit and the tutorials to the artist rather then the commissioner.

Are you relaying info or does the artist actually come here and read these?

RyuDeacon
02-11-2014, 05:46 PM
These are great tutorials, but I feel it would be much more helpful to give crit and the tutorials to the artist rather then the commissioner.

Are you relaying info or does the artist actually come here and read these?
directly no and far as i know she only has a DA and FA.

And to be clear this is a Reference Sheet that shes largely doing thru my direction and not independent so the advice is more useful for me to give her correct guidance if any changes are needed. I cant give the Artist free reign because the character is not a standard Anthro, it has a Body that Artist arnt use to drawing...

PS: This is also not a crit on her Art but rather the anatomy of my character. im only questioning about the structure of my character not the skill of the Artist.

wwretched
02-11-2014, 09:47 PM
For everyone asking, I found the larger image! sorry about that, I didn't realize it would be so small! Here you go! (http://p-sebae.tumblr.com/image/76147070630)

And I didn't realize that you didn't draw this; perhaps it would be best for the artist to ask for critique rather than the commissioner? Or perhaps link the artist to this thread. However, unless you got the okay from the artist, there does seem something a bit off about posting a thread critiquing their work without their permission. However, if you've got their permission then continue on.

QT Melon
02-11-2014, 11:52 PM
These are great tutorials, but I feel it would be much more helpful to give crit and the tutorials to the artist rather then the commissioner.

Are you relaying info or does the artist actually come here and read these?

I was relaying the info because people seemed to be interested in mixing anatomy so I gave them relevant links.

I do think though I will back off on critiques on this work because I wasn't aware it wasn't the OP's but if it's a commission he's getting I don't see too much harm in getting feedback on design if he wants something that works it's his commission. I only gave advice that the legs could be built stronger.

Sammacha
02-12-2014, 12:14 AM
I was relaying the info because people seemed to be interested in mixing anatomy so I gave them relevant links.

I do think though I will back off on critiques on this work because I wasn't aware it wasn't the OP's but if it's a commission he's getting I don't see too much harm in getting feedback on design if he wants something that works it's his commission. I only gave advice that the legs could be built stronger.


O this statement was not meant to be a negative response aimed at you QT. Just my thoughts in general, the way I wrote it, I could see it being taken personally, so I feel I must apologies for it.

QT Melon
02-12-2014, 12:27 AM
No worries. I didn't want to come off critiquing the piece in detail.

RyuDeacon
02-12-2014, 01:21 AM
Well its sad to hear that you all are mistaking me for trying to disrespect the Artist so il just close this Thread.

To be clear this was not ment to have any ill attentions in anyway and no i did not link her to this posting because as said before this did not concern her art skill but rather the anatomy of my Character im having her redesign in a new Reference sheet under my direction. And it was clearly said in the OP that the drawing was a wip for a Reference sheet i commissioned so im honestly surprized so many didnt see that.

Again im sorry you are taking this the wrong way.

You can note me if you wanna respond.