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chocomage
01-17-2014, 10:06 AM
So I decided to give this whole drawing thing a shot. I don't like how this came out but I figure I would see what everyone else has to say!

https://www.weasyl.com/~chocomage/submission/326218/chocomage-chocomages-first-art.png

Please feel free to give me pointers on how to make this better! I will have more to come soon!

QT Melon
01-17-2014, 11:26 AM
Keep going. Posting more work is a good start!

chocomage
01-18-2014, 03:58 AM
This next picture I did I was trying to get a spooky feel. I would really appreciate any criticism on how I should improve!

https://www.weasyl.com/~chocomage/submission/333174/chocomage-devious-bird.png

Tiamat
01-18-2014, 05:17 AM
I liked the first one more. Much more dynamic. Second piece looks very flat in comparison.
While it may sound like a recycled statement, the fact is that if you want to improve, the best way to do so is by doing studies of real objects, people and animals. Cheap paper and some pencils are the cost effective key to doing so. Its a life-long process, as an illustrator, no matter what stage you are at, you will always turn to basic studies to strengthen your skills and keep sharp. Its part of the journey.
I personally would like to see what you can do with some pencil sketches, I think you will find you have a lot more creative freedom which may be stifled by your current digital tools. (I'm guessing paint and mouse?) Don't let the PC be the thing that holds you back as an artist. :)

chocomage
01-18-2014, 05:39 AM
I liked the first one more. Much more dynamic. Second piece looks very flat in comparison.
While it may sound like a recycled statement, the fact is that if you want to improve, the best way to do so is by doing studies of real objects, people and animals. Cheap paper and some pencils are the cost effective key to doing so. Its a life-long process, as an illustrator, no matter what stage you are at, you will always turn to basic studies to strengthen your skills and keep sharp. Its part of the journey.
I personally would like to see what you can do with some pencil sketches, I think you will find you have a lot more creative freedom which may be stifled by your current digital tools. (I'm guessing paint and mouse?) Don't let the PC be the thing that holds you back as an artist. :)

My struggles with the traditional pencil and paper method is the guidelines. I always end up having left over marks from guidelines. I am still trying to figure out the whole gradient thing. For my art I have one of the newer wacom pro series tablets for the most part but i use the mouse to touch up all the things I draw.

Looking through my sketch book I found a few examples I would like to share. Please forgive me I don't have a scanner.

https://www.weasyl.com/~chocomage/submission/333532/chocomage-sketches-3.jpg

https://www.weasyl.com/~chocomage/submission/333523/chocomage-random-sketches-1.jpg

https://www.weasyl.com/~chocomage/submission/333527/chocomage-bird-sketch.jpg

Tiamat
01-18-2014, 05:49 AM
Thanks for sharing, I'm really glad to see you sketching. (I don't have a scanner either.)
Nothing wrong with guidelines are left over marks. Not every sketch has to be a masterpiece. My advice would be to focus on how all things, living or not can be broken down into basic shapes, these shapes are recognized by us because of light and shadow, which is how we perceive the world around us. Draw more dogs! They're excellent tools for improvement. I try sketch mine quite often, only problem is they get up right in the middle of it. So I try to capture the contours of their body, the basic shadows which make up their muscles and proportions, before trying to address details.

I would suggest working lighter on the sketches and keeping things loose when using the pencil and always keep a reference handy, when you are not doing studies of real objects.
I'm pleased that you opened up this thread, I hope you will share more of your stuff.

chocomage
01-20-2014, 08:25 AM
I did a few sketches in my free time today. I'm going to attempt to draw a few of these characters a bit more in depth over the next few days. As always let me know if you see anywhere I can improve.

https://www.weasyl.com/~chocomage/submission/350644/chocomage-digital-sketches.png

TealMoon
01-20-2014, 03:02 PM
Study animals' snouts. I think it would really help. As the snouts in your newest pictures look off.
And it's some advice I need to take myself. :P

chocomage
01-20-2014, 03:06 PM
Thanks for the pointer! I was trying to do a lot more animals looking directly at me.Also I have just recently come to the conclusion guidelines on faces do not work for me. Heads are not shaped like circles so starting with a circle screws me up

Despite how much I want to draw animals I got bored and drew a human this morning.

https://www.weasyl.com/~chocomage/submission/354146/chocomage-human-drawing.png

Tiamat
01-20-2014, 03:16 PM
Be sure to keep references nearby. Especially for things like the head and the hands. IF you nail those two elements in a picture, you can get away with a lot.
I would suggest mapping out the head as a whole, then adding the hair over it. Doing basic body sketches while studying proportion and joints will go a long way to improving your artwork.

TealMoon
01-20-2014, 07:10 PM
Have you tried using eggs rather than circles? Or circles and wedges.

chocomage
01-24-2014, 12:21 PM
On this one I started out using an egg shape as you suggested but I ended up making it more square in the end. I am pretty sure I am not good with shapes... The good news is I felt like I finally figured out how to do necks which I feel I have been struggling with.

https://www.weasyl.com/~chocomage/submission/398021/chocomage-draggy-sketch.png

I need to work a lot more on lower bodies I think. Any tips for drawing legs?

Velo
01-24-2014, 12:45 PM
It might be good starting out with the basic non-perspective drawing off the lower body. This way you can learn to get a feel for the proportions?

Don't forget to always keep some kind of reference nearby. This doesn't mean copy paste what you see, but more of an interpretation what you see. Try to find the characteristics of the feet/legs/... and then into your drawing too.
(Does it has a pointy heel? Does the foot is complete flat? How are the toes curled? How long are the feet in proportion to the legs?)

TealMoon
01-24-2014, 12:55 PM
For snouts think, boxes, coffins and cylinders.

chocomage
01-24-2014, 01:06 PM
I had not noticed the left foot was so large when I was drawing this. I was focused more on making it look somewhat natural having the point on the back. I wanted it to look like it was somewhat threatening with its hands like that. as for the feet I tried to make it look as if it were landing from a jump.

I feel like I have the shape of the snout down a bit but connecting it to the face is where my trouble lies. With the dragon drawing I tried to assume where the side of the face would go down but that gave the entire head a slanted feel to it.

Dragons typically have more of a beak than a snout right?

TealMoon
01-24-2014, 01:09 PM
Depends on the dragon really. Some people mix the traits of cats, reptiles (like lizards and alligators) and birds.
Others have kind of a reptile/horse thing going on.

chocomage
01-26-2014, 01:11 AM
I attempted at fixing up his face wings and left foot. I added a bit more detail to the tail too.

https://www.weasyl.com/~chocomage/submission/398021/chocomage-draggy-sketch-wip-1429853.png

Do you guys think his lower body is a bit too small compared to his upper body?

chocomage
01-27-2014, 05:01 PM
Made the lines a bit neater. Removed the wings because I thought they looked funny. Any criticism or advice is appreciated.
I also used SAI instead of GIMP, which I have been using for all previous things.

https://www.weasyl.com/~chocomage/submission/417711/chocomage-dragon-line-art-1479006.png

chocomage
01-31-2014, 06:52 PM
Here the finished project of my "dragon" I fixed a few more flaws before I colored it in, including his hand, arm, neck and feet. I am still having a bit of trouble deciding what colors go together on characters vs what is in the background. Feedback is always appreciated.

https://www.weasyl.com/~chocomage/submission/435279/chocomage-dragon-colored-1540460.png